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Old 10-17-2004, 10:25 PM
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Billa'mubalgha mujhay aur HallaGulla ko un tamaam sathiyoon pay fakhar hai jinhoon nay pichlay aik haftay mein mozo e behas mazmoon Aurat pay apnay khayalaat ko ilfaaz mein tarteeb diya aur un tamaam sathiyon ko jo sinf e nazuk ko samajhna chahtay thai ya uss kay baray mein jan'na chahtay thai un tuk apni baat pohanchaye aur un ko iss amal mein madam baham pohanchaye.. !!

Iss haftay aik naye mazmoon kay sath aik baar phir say hazir e khidmat hain.. iss haftay hum nay kuch aur mozoo nahi chuna.. balkay woh mozo zair e behas laa rahay hain jo hum aap ziada tar sab saathi shab o roz amli toor pay kartray hain.. kuch amli toor pay kuch lafziyoon ke sourat mein.. jee mein baat kar raha hoon Mazhab e Islam ke.. Islam iss haftay kay liyeah mozoo e behas chuna gaya hai...

Behas ke hadood aur uss ka rukh mot'aiyaan karna bohat zaroori hai.. ta kay iss wasee tareen mozoo ko kissi aik hee nehaj pay daikha jaa sakay.. keh shaid yeah hum mein say kissi aik ke ist'aaat mein na hoo.. issi haftay irfan nay aik sawal kiya tha tableeghi jamat kay hawalay say kay aik jamat gai aik mohallay mein aur aik hindo ko islam ka paygham pohanchaya.. hindu ka jawab tha.. mujh mein aur musalmaan mein faraq kaya hai.. mein bhi sara din naap tool mein kami baishi karta hoon.. jhoot bhi bolta hoon.. maira paroosi bhi yeahi sab karta hai.. haan faraq agar kuch hai tu sirf yeah kay musalman goosht khata hai aur mein nahi.. !!

Aab sawal jo hum iss haftay kay liyeah rakh rahay hain Islam kay hawalay say. woh yeah keh agar aap ko kissi non-muslim ko islam kay baray mein batana hoo tu kaisay batayain gai aap.. zahir see baat hai.. aap ko yeah karnay kay liyeah mantaq ke zaroorat hoo gi.. shaid schience kay hawaloon ke bhi aur shaid aisee hee bohat see aur cheezoon ke bhi.. hum iss baar islam ko youn discuss kartay hain keh faraz kar lijiyeah aik HINDU hai humara sathi jo hum say sawal karay ga.. aik tu wohi jo upar likh diya hai.. aur shaid jab aap mazeed likhain uss ko samjhaanay kay liyeah tu woh kuch aur sawal bhi akray.. aisay hee kuch aur sawal jo uss saathi nay jo hmaray darmaayaan hai aur jo apna naam nai batana chahta mujh say kiyeah.. mein woh sawal jaisay mujh tuk pohanchay waisay aap sab sathiyoon tuk pohancha raha hoon.. iss umeed kay saath kay aap sathiyoon ke faham o farasat say shaid hum behtari ke taraf chal sakkain... !

Jo sawal mujh tuk pohanchay woh zail mein darj kar raha hoon..

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kuch din pehle aik sahab se baat ho rahi thii, unhon ne kaha ke aap hindu ho aur aap apni zindagi zaya ker rahe ho... khuda ke nazdeek aap ki koi importance nahiin hay islam hi sirf deen-e-wahid hay.... aur bhi bohat kuch kaha unhone batane ki mere khayal se zaroorat nahin hay aap bahter samjh sakty ho mera unse aik simple sa sawal tha.. woh yeh ke bhaii jab main paida ho raha tha to mujhse bilkul bhi nahiin poocha gaya tha ke main hindu muslim ya kissi aur ke gahr janam lena chahta hoon... aur jab tak maine shaoor hasil kya main zindagi ke 15 saal un logon main guzar chuka tha... even agar baad main mujhe he ahsas ho bhi jaye ke islam hi deen-e-wahid hay tab bhi due to practical problems it wont be possible for me to change my religion.... main religion change karke shayad apne liye to janat ka intizaam karlon, per un sab logon pe kya guzregi jinhon ne mujhe janam diya mujhe pala bara kya....
woh to khair jawab na de sake aap ko kya lagta hay hum jab khud yeh decide hi nahin karty ke humen kahan janam lena hay to phir humen kiyun ker saza di jayegiii ....!!!!

Jawab dete waqat aik cheez ka khayaal rakhiyega ke general terms main ho personalized na ho, kiyunke bohat se log aise hi to honge na jinhen kissi ne islam ke bare main sahi se guide hi na kya ho, jinhen yeh pata hi na ho what actually islam is, tou kya woh log bhi saza ke mustahkam tahrenge?
Yeah sawal aisay hee mujh tuk pohanchi hai.. aur mein issi tarhaan aap sathiyoon tuk pohancha raha hoon.. iss umeed kay saath kay aap loug aqali dalayal kay saath iss ka jawab dai gain.. na kay jazbati naroon kay saath.. We are setting a trend here ... unique of its kind, and only together we can make difference in real lifes from this virtual worl.

Aap logoon ke tahreeroon ka shidaat say muntazir hoon.


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Assalam-o-Aleikum Bhaion or Behnon

main is topic ki munasibat say kuch kehna chahonga.. soocha to yeh tha keh shayad meray is post say pehlay mujhay kuch logon kay post miljaingay to kuch points ikatha karney main asani hojayegi but unfortunately i guess i m the 1 to start with...

chalain main Islam say related kuch basic cheezain batana chahonga.. main koe Mufti ya Aalim to hon nahin jo meri har baat 100% authentic ho.. lekin meri poori koshish hogi keh meri taraf say koe bhi aisi baat na ho jis say kisssi bhi bhai ya behen ki dil azari ho as yeh topic to bahut acha hai lekin bahut hi ziada sensitive.. or meri sab say aik bahut bari guzarish bhi hai keh agar kissi bhi bhai ya behen ya mujh say kissi kisam ki aisi koe baat hojaye jis main zara sa bhi tazaaad ho to please aggressive honay ya us banday kay liay apnay dil mian burai rakhnay ki bilkul zaroorat nahin..

Allah Tallah mujhay sahi baat karney ki toufiq ata farmaye Ameen...

sab say pehlay main yeh kehna chahonga keh what the word "ISLAM" means? mainay internet pay search kia i found two meanings of Islam 1 is "PEACE" and the other is "Submitting Your self to the Creator". ab is baat say to matlab yeh saaf zahir hojata hai keh jo bhi Religion Islam ko apnata hai woh aik to Peace ki taraf ajata hai or dosra woh apnay dil say demagh say har tarhan say apnay aap ko apnay creator - Allah kay hawaley kardeta hai.. Allah kay hawalay kardenay say matlab kay jo kuch Allah tallah nay hukum diay thru QURAN-e-Pak and by his most beloved Prophet Hazrat Mohammad (SAW) woh sab har us shaks ko manney pareingay jo bhi Islam kay dairay main hoga.. ab saath saath zaroorat is baat ko samajhney ki bhi hai keh Allah tallah nay Insaan ko kiun banaya.. kiun Insanon kay liay itni khobsorat dunya banaye kiun apnay pyarey Nabi is dunya main bhejay.. is baat say to shayad har banda Ittefaq karega keh Allah mian ko hum insanon ki ebadat ki zaroorat nahin hai hum say kahin ziada ebadat Farishtey Allah tallah ki kartey hain.. lekin jab Allah tallah nay Hazrat Adam ko banaya or tamam farishton ko sajda karney ko kaha tab us waqt kay farishton kay sardar Iblees nay sajda karney say mana kardia.. or youn woh Shaitan bangaya.. As Allah is the creator of all woh yeh sab jantey thay or yehi wajah say unhon nay Insan ko demagh ki naimat say nawaza keh jis say woh sahi or ghalat mian farq karsakein or yehi wajah say insaan Ashraf-ul-Makhloqat meaning tamam tar Makhlokat main sab say afzal karar diaygaye.. keh Shaitan kay behkaway main anay kay bawajood Allah ki taraf rukh rakhain.. ussi say madad mangain or ussi ki panah maingain..

ab jahan tak baat un sawalon ki hai jo Basit bhai nay kahey to us barey main main yeh kehna chahonga keh kissi bhi insaan say yeh nahin poocha gaya keh woh kis family kis religion main jana chahta hai.. yeh hum musalmaon ki khush kismati hai keh hum ko Islam Religion main paida kia gaya.. zaroorat is cheez ko samjhnay ki hai keh akhir aisa hua kiun.. shayad is ki 1 wajah yeh hai keh Insaan ko jo demagh ki naimat mili hia us say woh sahi or ghalat main farq karsakey.. according to we muslims we being the rite and hindus being the wrong... ab zaroorat to is baat ki hai keh agar hum waqai yeh samajhtey hain ekh hindu ghalat hai or hum sahi to phir jahan hum logon is cheez ki taraf dhiyan detay hain keh hindu ghalat hai to is taraf bhi khayal rakhna chahiye keh as hum sahi hai to humain is cheez ko promote karna chahiye... ye baat waqai sach hai keh jo dunyawi burayan aik hindu mian hoti hai like jesay kay mention kia gaya keh maal main kami beshi ya phir jhoot bolna and all yeh sab hum main bhi hain lekin yeh sab kuch Islam nahin sikhata shayad hindu mazhab bhi is cheez kay barey main nahin sikhata hoga.. yeh hum sab ki apnay apnay religion say doori ka nateeja hai.. or rahi baat is baat kay selection ki keh kaunsa religion sahi or kaunsa nahin.. to yeh baat waqai mian sach hai keh hum is dunya main is had tak kho chukay hain keh hum ko apnay agay ki zindagi ki koe fikar nahin.. yeh baat bhi durust hai keh hum un sab rishton kay totally against bhi nahin jasaktey jin main khas tor pay parents shamil hain.. is ki bhi bahut bari wajah sirf or sirf deen say doori hai.. or wesay bhi jahan tak baat hindu religion ki hai un kay mutabik to shayad dunya say agay koe zindgi hai hi nahin.. to zaroorat is baat ki hai keh un ko is baat ka yaqeen dilaya jaye keh marney kay baad ki zindagi hi permanent hai.. abhi jo zindagi hum guzar rahey ahin woh to bas aik pal ki hai..

wesay to is topic kay barey mian kehnay kay liay itna kuch hai keh shayad main likh likh kay thak jaon.. but apni sooch or aqal say jitna short karkey likh saka likha..

As i m not a very good writer isleye agar mujh say kahin ghalti hoe ho to mujhay maaf kardijyega

Allah hum sab ko naik hidayat day or Deen kay rastey par chalney ki tofiq day as issi main hum sab ki bhalaye hai

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Asslam O Alaikum pa ji ..! @};-

Afsoos ki baat hai key kisi musalmaan bhai nai aisey kisi ghair mazhab ko kaha .! Mera nahi khayal Islam kahin bhi is baat ki ijazat deyta hai khair Afsoos hua @};-.. !
Hmm mo'azu aisa hai key behas mera nahi khayal aisey mo'azu per behas honi chayeh kyun k akeedey har aik k apney hain ..! par yahan jo sawal hai is ka jawab dena zaroori samjhon ga ..! aik insaan honaey kai natey aik musalmaan honaey kai natey ..! kyun kai poocha shayad Musalmaan sai gya hai ..! kay batao ..!
Bhai jee aap key liye itna kahon ga key maan liya zindage ka aik bara hisa aap nai us ghar main parwarish paii jahan mazhab hinduism tha aur un maa baap ki farma bardari kertey hein jinhon nai aap ko janam diya pala posa bara kya ..! Baeyshak un ka aap ki taraf bohat haq hai ..! Par haq toh aap ki taraf us zaat ka bhi hai jis nai is saree duniya ko paeda kya ..! jis nai kianaat key aik aik jaandar ko zindage di ..! jis nai haqeeqatan aap ko zindage di ..! Assumptions ko laey ker key kisi sai zindage nahi ji ja sakti hai ..! zindage key pehley 15 saal main toh itna hee kahon ga key itney arsey main toh insaan ko ilm hee nahi hota ..! Achey burey ki tameez koi nahi hoti aur bohat si ghaltiyan hoti hain jo na tajurbakari ka saboot deti hein ..! par kuch arsa mazeed guzarney key baad acha bure is ki tameez insaan khud kerna shuru ker deta hai ..! shayad aap ko kuch mazeed waqt chayeh ho is barey main ..! key aap SAMJHNA shuru kerein ..!
Sawal tha aap ka key janam letey waqt ham sai poocha nahi jata toh ham ko saza kyun di jaye gi ..! Jawab itna sada sa hai key kis nai keh deya aap sai key aap key janam letey waqt yeh descion ho gya key aap ko saza miley gi kyun k aap kisi ghair mazhab sai hain ..! Sara sar ghalat hai yeh ..! Saza ka haqdar insaan tabhi hai jab SAB SOCH SAMAJH KER JAAN KER BHI ghalat kerey ..! BA SHA'OOR ho ker nadani ki baat kerey tab saza hai ..! aji janam toh kisi ka bhi kahin bhi hota hai per baat hai key HAQ baat ko SACH baat ko samajh ker bhi us sai muun phaer laey ga jo Saza toh us ko miley gi ..! aur wasey bhi saza ka faisla kerney waley ham aur aap kaun woh toh OOPER WALA HEE JANEY ..!
Aik bacha jo kisi ghair mazhab gharaney main paeda hua usey kyun saza miley gi ? kis liye ? hargiz nahi aisa hargiz nahi ho ga .! par haan aik Mature admi yaan aurat jo HAQ aur SACH ko jantey hein per phir bhi ankhein phaer laein ..! un ko saza deney ka kaha gya hai ..! woh bhi OOPER WALEY par hai key maaf kerta hai yaan saza deta hai woh sab toh US kai faisley per .. ! Baat hai dawat deney ki .! aap chotey thaey toh chalein aap jis gharaney main paeda huyee wahin key reet-o-rawaj toar tareqey sab aap ko mila ..! jab aap barey huye Achey burey ki tameez hui sach kya hai maloom chala toh wahan dekhna chyeh key aya aap ko kisi nai samjhaya ? kisi nai bataya ? yaan aap key ilm main SACH kya hai woh aya ? yaan aap ko agar kisi nai us mazhab ka parchar kya toh kis tareeqey sai kya kia aap key dil main baat utri ? Agar toh in sab sawalon ka jawab haan main hai toh matlab aap sab sacha acha jantey huye bhi anjaan ban rahey hain ..! aap apni community ko yeh sab batana nahi chahtey ..! aap un ki baat man'ana chahtey hein sirf aur sirf is liye kyun key aap ki naslon sai yehi reet chali a rahee hai .! kyun key aap nai kisi aik mazhab ko Qabool nahi kya just Wirasat main liya hai ..! Baat hai kisi bhi Mazhab ko Qabool kerney ki ..!
Dekhein bhai ji ..! main ALL HAM DO LILLAH muslim gharaney main paeda hua ..! par is ka matlab main saza sai bach gya ? ho sakta hai muslim gharaney main paeda honaey kai bawajood main aik mukamal aur acha musalmaan nahi hoon toh phir kya kahyeh ? kya main stamp lagwa ker paeda hua hoon key mujhey saza nahi miley gi ? nahi hargiz nahi ..! kya main nai Islam Mazhab Qabool kya hai ? nahi hargiz nahi mujhey toh Virasat main mila hai aur main wohi ker raha hoon jo sikhaya gya aur bas ..! Yeh aik normal Muslim kerta hai yaan kahyeh key 98% loag is duniya main isi normal tareeqey sey chaltey hein key woh kisi mazhab ko Qabool nahi kertey bas Virasat main letey hein ..! Baat samjhney ki hai baat Sh'aor ki hai .!
Comparison kerna nahi chayeh per agar dekhein toh Islam kya kehta hai ? Islam key mutabiq agar chala jaye toh kasey ? Rehan sahen kya jaye toh kasey ? Hindu mazhab hai toh woh kya kehta hai ? us key mutabiq chala jaye toh kya tareeqa hai ? Rehan sehan kya jaye toh kya ? Aisaiyat hai toh woh kya kehtey hein ? us key mutabiq chala jaye toh kya tareeqa hai ? Rehan sehan kya jaye toh kya ? ..! Aisey hee aur bhi pata nahi kitney hee mazahib hain in sab ko samney rakhein study kerein TAKE UR TIME ..! poochein jitna pooch saktey hein sawal uthaein jitney sawal utha saktey hein ..! jawab miley ga INSHALLAH aur zaroor miley ga ..! sochein samjhein ghoar-o-fiker kerein ..! jis ko behter paein usi ko QABOOL kerein ..! aur itna toh main dawey sai keh sakta hoon key aik ba'ashaoor insaan agar samjhey toh bohat si nishaniyan hain @};-
Main koi alim nahi na hee main koi ALLAH ka bara naek aur parhaez gar banda hoon per shayad main zayada nahi toh kuch toh samjha saka aisa mera apna khayal hai bakee koi ghalat baat kahi ho toh us key liye mazrat @};- umeed kerta hoon key bohat nahi toh kuch toh keh gya aur bakee toh baat hoti rahey gi @};-
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