Urdu Poetry Forum

Asalam o Alaikum,

It seems you haven't read it fully, i did mentioned both dimensions of this subject with my honest (yet persona) point of view. I did said :

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Kuch Ban Kay Aziyaat Miltay Hein Tu Kuch Rahat e Jaan Ka Samaan Kartay hein.. Kuch Sang Apnay Bahar Liyeah Phirtay Hein.. tu Kuch Ban Kay Khar Miltay Hein.. ! Kuch In Ka BayooPar kartay Hein tu Kuch In Ke Pehchaan Bantay Hein..!

Baaz dafa hum kuch tehreeroon ko apnay nazariyaat kay mutabiq parhtay hein.. un nazariyaat kay teheat jo hum nay likhnay walay ya tehreer kay baray mein parhnay say pehlay hee akhaz kar rakhay hootay hain.. aisay mein kabhi bhi hum asal ko nahi parh paatay.. haan parhtay tu hein.. samajh nahi paata.. shaid samajh bhi laitay hein.. par ta'sub ke gard uss mein uss sooch ka asal chehra maskh hoo jaata hai.

I totally agree with you about your thoughts about materialistic affiliations, but I think you have read it with a pre-set point of view about this article, i never said that one relationship make jungle, instead i said these relationships make a jungle collectively, and i did also said that this is a test for us from RAB e Azeem who put these relationships in our blood and I did also refer to other relationship which again RAB e AZEEM put in our way of life those are relationships with people, those we love or hate for one or other reason, those are relationships with people and things we desire to have or not to have and those are relationships with events and situations.

I probably look at word relationship from a different point of view and I can't agree more with you that we do have different point of view on this topic i.e., Relationship.

At the end I would like to say Thanks for all the effort you have made to read it and to give your very valuable comments which made me think again and convience my self on the point of view i made here.

Wa.Salam

Well usually, we don't really rely on some specific words or even sentences from the material itself, when it comes to justify the content of some composition...i was just trying to narrate my views on the bottom line of this composition...like.. .your last para completely and the last line....which makes the heart of the substance...

Frankly...shayed aap ka khiyal theek ho...maine bhi aik mukhsoos zaviye se hi is tehreer ko approach kiya ho ga...don't blame you for this...if i have convinced you to the extent.....i myself perhaps tend to have almost the same point of view....atleast when it comes to Relationships...

Lekin shayed...yaheen main aik ummeed dekhna chahta tha....ke shayed...rishton ki dhund main juzbaat ki suchi roshni bhi hoti.....lekin...apn e apne experience ki baat hai....am not trying to criticise...or trying to make a point...just being myself...

Well, infact you yourself answered the question you raised. I am going to quote what you just said.

Dhund doesn't mean DARKNESS, In darkness you even can't identify the dhund properly. You can only claim its FOG when there is light. And when I said Dhund I meant exactly the same, I could have use darkness, which I mentioned earlier when I use symbole of darkness of Jungle, but instead I decided you use this word. So I can explain this specific sentence as below:

"Yeh Duniya Gar Ik Manzar Hai, Yeah Rishtay Dhund Ke Sourat Hein"

Means: We were born in this beautiful world full of light by Alllah Tallah, but these relationships are so dear to us sometimes we can't see the real beauty of it, cos we're so attached to our relationships (almost all relationships). Now this FOG/Dhund basically a representation of our own attachment towards our relatives/relationships with other people/things/issues/events. It's never written in context of darkness or in context that this FOG/DHUND eath the light of this life/world.

I hope I made my point clear.

Just to add one line about the above, as you yourself is a writer you should understand that when a writer write something its not what he experienced most of time its what he/she felt or observed. So its not fair to relate everything to writer's personal experience. Hope you understand. I personally take it as an insult when someone claim what i write is what i expereince. It means I have no wisdom, I have no observation and I see nothing. All i do is write what happen. I am not a historian or I am not writing a biography here, I wrote what I feel, what I believe, what I think and what I know, and above all what i belive is right. My writeups are my "I" world, which holds the world of everyone else when they pass by.

Be Blessed.
Wa.Salam

ADAB HAZAT

yeah saab perhtay mujhay IRFAN ki shadi wali raat yaad agaii .... jab raat kay 2:30/ 3:00 bajay aap aur mein "kaduratooN ke dermiyaaN, adawatoon ke dermiyaaN.....tammam dost ajnabi hain dostoon kay dermiyaaN" jaisee guftagu kertay rahay............

Yeah insani fitrat hey ke
" khoon ke rishtay moutabbar hotay hein
tehzebee rishtay fakhriya hotay hein
aur
mazhabi rishtoon per andha dhund aaitamaad hota hay"

................aur koii fitrat sey kitna laray..............?

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