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This is a discussion on Haqeeqat kya hai? within the Mohabat Kadah forums, part of the Mouj Masti category; Originally Posted by KHL Originally Posted by |_PuRNaM_| Chaliye yum hi sahi Phir main yeh puchna chaoongi k muhabbat mein ...
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#21
08-29-2005, 10:57 AM
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Acha chalen jab tajurbah ho to mujhe zaroor batana
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#22
08-29-2005, 10:59 AM
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Aap k "now" likhne par mujh khatka howa hai  Koi baat hai zaroor hum se to kahiye hazoor?  1.gif ")1")
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#23
08-29-2005, 12:53 PM
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 Jald hee huny wala hay...  |
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#24
08-30-2005, 06:22 AM
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wo tu bas galti say mistake ho gai 
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#25
08-30-2005, 10:38 AM
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Salaam. Aap ko koi or topic nahi mila tha baat karnay ke lie... kahir koi baat nahi... Aap ne haqeeqt bhi poochi to uss cheez ki jo lafzon me bayan nahi ki ja sakti... aisa lagta hai ke aap mere saath mazaq kar rahay hein... mohabbat ki apni koi haqeeqat nahi hai, yeh roop badal badal kar zinda rehti hai. asal me sirf wohi mohabbat hai jo aik insaan apnay Rab ka shukar baja lanay ke liye uss ke hazoor ibaadat ki soorat me karta hai.... Aap ne bilkul sahi kaha hai ke mohabbat or jung me sab "jaiz" hota hai, aap ke sawaal ka jawab to khud aap ke apnay sawal me hi maujood hai, phir bhi aap mujh se pooch rahay hein.... Pooch kar karnay walay kabhi Mohabbat nahi kiya kartay..anyway...me yeh keh raha tha ke hum mohabbat or jung me har wo kaam kar saktay hein jo jaiz hai... aap se yeh kis ne keh diya hai ke jung na jaiz hoti hai.... jang bhi jaiz hi hoti hai, har fareeq apnay apnay mauqaf or nazariye ke mutabiq apnay apnay faislay par sahi hota hai or apni yehi jaiz baat munawanay ke liye wo doosray fareeq se jung karta hai... kisi ki haar hi to kisi ki jeet ka sabab banay gi naa... mujhay lagta hai ke aap ne kabhi kisi se mohabbat nahi ki, bus yunhi lafzon se khailnay ka shoq rakhtay hein, zaroor khaliye, lekin mohababt khail nahi hai, jis din karogay tab poochon ga ? agar aap ne kisi se mohabbat ki hoti to uss ke liye kabhi "saffaki" ka lafz istemaal (use) nahi kartay, wo mohabbat hi kiya? jo saffak ho. mohabbat bhi jaiz hoti hai, yeh duniya banai hi mohabbat ke liye gai hai, phir bhala mohabbat na-jaiz kis tarah ho gai... har insaan ko kisi na kisi insaan se mohabbat karnay karnay ke liye hi bhaija gaya hai, or agar yeh phir bhi aapas me lartay hein to yeh inn ki apni aqal ka qasoor hai, iss me bhala mohabbat ka kiya Dosh ! agar duniya me mohabaat na hoti to shayad yeh kab ki khatam ho chuki hoti... har insaan ko kisi na kisi se, kisi na kisi shakal me mohabbat zaroor hoti hai, mohabbat ke kai roop hein or wo apnay har roop me amar hai. chahay wo maa ke roop me ho, chahay baap ke, chahay behan ke, chahay bhai ke, chahay kisi dost ke, ya phir apnay mehboob ke roop me... yeh aakhiri wala rishta hi sirf aisa rishta hai jiss me insaan mohabbat ki sab hadon ko choo lena chahata hai, or apnay issi rishtay ko panay ke liye wo kuch bhi kar guzarta hai... issi liye to mohababt ko un`dha (Blind) bhi kaha gaya hai... baaz auqaat jab mohabbat un`dhi ho jati hai, to wo aisi be-shumaar galtiyaan kar beth`ti hai jo jaiz nahi hoti lekin phir bhi hum ussay mohabbat ka naam de kar jaiz qaraar de detay hein. haqeeqat me aisay hi log mohabbat ke dushman hotay hein or mohabbat ko badnaam kar rahay hein... me aisi un`dhi (blind) mohabbat ke bilkul qaail nahi hoon, wo mohabbat hi kiya jo un`dhi (blind) ho? mere yaqeen hai ke mohabbat kabhi un`dhi nahi ho sakti, agar wo un`dhi hoti to hamaray dilon tak kabhi nahi pohanch paati... aaj kal to kisi aankhon walay ko kisi ke dil ka pata maloom nahi hai, to yeh to phir bhi mohabbat hai, yeh bhala bina aankhon ke kahein kaisay pohanch sakti hai... or waisay bhi mohabbat agar un`dhi hoti to shayad phir koi bhi aqal mand insaan kabhi mohbbat na karta, kisi insaan ki aankhein na hon to log uss ke kareeb nahi jatay phir mohabbat ko bhala kaisay apnatay... mohabbat khud un`dhi nahi hoti lekin doosron ko un`dha zaroor kar deti hai, wo bhi sirf iss liye take kahein ussay apnay hi kisi aashiq ki nazar na lag jaye... mere nazdeek jaiz or na jaiz ki defination (mohabat ke hawalay se) sirf itni hai ke "har wo kaam mohabbat me jaiz hai jo aap sab ke saamnay kar saktay hein or har wo kam mohabbat me na-jaiz hai jo aap sab ke samnay nahi kar saktay" kuch log ho sakta hai ke meri iss baat ka matlab kisi or tarah se lein, lekin me ne pehlay hi ke diya hai ke meri iss baat ko sirf mohabbat ke hawalay se lijiye ga. Bahir ke mulkon me aisay be shumaar kaam hotay hein jo jaiz nahi hein lekin phir bhi khulay aam ho rahay hein... lekin phir bhi hum unn ko jaiz nahi keh saktay... me yeh bhi nahi kehta ke bahir ke mulkon me log mohabbat nahi kartay, lekin wahan ki mohabbat me hawas ki milawat hai jo mohabbat ke asal mafhoom ko khatam kar deti hai. Mohabbat Bangi Hai, Iss Me Tan Ka Qurb Mat Mango... Ke Jiss Ko Choo Liya Jaye, Ussay Pooja Nahi Kartay... iss ke liye me aap ko mohabbat ki aik or khasiyat bata doon or wo yeh ke mohabbat hamesha sirf aik se hi hoti hai, har roz naya chehra talaash karnay walay log mohabbat nahi kuch or hi kiya kartay hein. insaan jab kabhi kisi aur se mohabbat karta hai to wo mohabbat nahi bulke sirf aik samjhota hota hai jisay mohabbat ka naam de kar wo apni pehli mohabbat ko aik naya roop dena chah raha hota hai... zindagi me sab se aasan kaam kisi se mohabbat karna hai, agar kuch mushkil hai to wo ussay bhulana hai, aap ne agar kisi se kabhi sachi mohabbat ki hogi to aap ko pata chalay ga ke bhulana kiya hota hai..? kisi ko bhoolnay ke liye bhi to ussay yaad karna hi parta hai, iss liye aap uss ko jitna bhulaein ge wo aap ko utna hi ziyada yaad aaye gi, iss liye kisi ko bhulana na mumkin hai... Bichartay waqt kisi se hamein bhi tha yeh gumaan... Ke Zakh`m kaisa bhi ho, Um`r bhar nahi rehta... baaz zakham aisay bhi hotay hein jin ka madaawa kabhi nahi ho pata... aap sab yeh to maantay hein naa ke mohabbat one sided bhi hoti hai or two sided bhi, insaan kisi se ussi soorat me bicharta hai jab uss ki mohababt one sided ho.... lekin mohabbat to yeh nahi dekhti naaa... wo to sirf mohabbat hoti hai...or wo bhi karnay ke liye... iss liye wo uss ke bicharnay ke baad bhi ussi se mohabbat karta rehta hai, uss ne hum se mohabbat nahi ki hoti iss liye shayad wo hamein bhool bhi jaye, lekin hum ussay zindagi ke kisi bhi mor par bhala kaisay faramosh kar saktay hein, hum ne to mohabbat ki hoti hai naa. mohabbat sab kuch pa lenay ka hi naam nahi hai, wo log bohat khush qismat hote hein jo sab kuch paa letay hein... Mohababt aik khushi hai jo sirf dene ke liye hi hoti hai, agar yeh sirf liye janay ka naam hi hoti to phir, shayad yeh hum me se, kisi ko bhi naseeb na hoti. har insaan, sirf issay, hasil karnay ki hi koshish karta kisi ko dene ki nahi. Mohababt ka to yeh qanoon hai ke ussay jitna lutaya jaye, kharch kiya jaye yeh utni hi barhti hai, aap kisi or ko mohabbat dein ge to koi aap ko bhi de ga. yeh kabhi kahtam nahi hoti, hamesha zinda rehti hai. kahein na kehein, kisi na kisi roop me, kisi na kisi dharkan me, kisi na kisi yaad me, mohababt ki nahi jaati bas ho jati hai, issi liye yeh "saffak" nahi hoti, kiyunke zulm hota nahi bulke kiya jata hai.. Mohabbat lafzon ki mohataj nahi hoti, bulke lafz hamesha se iss ke mohataaj rahay hein ke kisi tarah iss ki tareef ko apnay qalam ki taqat se samait kar apnay paas kahein qaid kar lein.... lekin aisa karna qalam ke bas ki baat kahan ? Mera bas chalay to bas likhta hi chala jaoon lekin kiya karoon me bhi mohabbat ke hathon majboor hoon, agar issi tarah likhta raha to phir mohabbat kaisay karoon ga, logon ke dilon me zinda kaisay rahoon ga, kisi ke dil me zinda rehnay ka naam hi to mohabbat hai, issi liye yeh amar hai. Gar Baazi Ishq Ki Baazi Hai... Jo Kuch Bhi Laga Do Dar Kaisa... Gar Jeet Gaye To Kiya Kehnay... Haaray Bhi To Baazi Maat Nahi... Allah App sab ko bhi mohabbat ke haqeeqi mafhoom se aagah karay or sachi mohabbat atta karay... Aap ki mohabatton ka taalib... Farhan Usmani |
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#26
08-30-2005, 12:12 PM
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salam to all , farhan i agree with your each and every word... muhabbat ek atot rishtay ka nam hai roop badal jatay per ye hamesha zinda rehti hai kabhi kabhi ek haseen yaad ban k kabhi kisi ka saath ban k .......ye alag baat hai log is muqadas rishtay/jazbay may milawat ker daytay hain ....or jung or muhabbat k farq ko bhool jatay hain or is k husool k liay kuch b ker jatay hain sirf apji jeet ki khatir ..... or muhbbat k liay ek shair .... Khuda Bhe Na Bach Saka Ishq K Taqazo Sy Ek Mehbob Ki Khati r Dunya Bana Dali Shukriya
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#27
08-30-2005, 01:10 PM
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hmmmmmmmm kuch ziadah chaldi nahi ? 
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#28
08-30-2005, 01:12 PM
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ghalati se naa kiya karen naa aysi ghalati aap ko patah hai main fiqrmand ho jaati hoon 
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#29
08-30-2005, 01:37 PM
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Jaang kay bhi kuch asool hotay hain, janay kion Jaang ko ham under-estimate kartay hain aur Mohabat ko over-estimate... Jaang ho ya Mohabat... Jigra mangti hay bas ! |
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#30
08-30-2005, 02:34 PM
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Mohtaram Usmani sahab! Adaab! Mujhe khushi hoi aap ka taweel aur tafseeli jawaab dekh kar, parhte parhte mujhe afsos bhi howa aur aap ki achi baato par khushi bhi hoi..aap ne mozoo se khasa hath kar likha par koi baat nahi..yahan par hum apne khaiyalaat, tajurbaat, mushahide share karte hain, koi sawal karte hain tak k behes ka pehloo nikal sake aur hum eik dusre se kuch seekh saken, maqsad bas itna sa hi hota hai.... Yeh achi baat nahi k hum zatiyaat mein par kar apne aap ko aur dusron ko uljhane, main ne yeh topic mehez is liye shoroo kiya tha k hum is par behes karen aur apne apne khailaat ka izhaar karen saath hi saath dusron ki kahi baato ka bhi ehtram karen ikhtilaaf-e-raye rakhna hargiz buri baat nahi.. par kisi ki kahi baat ko yun hi bura kehna bohat buri baat hoti hai Har insaan apni soch k mutabik baat karta hai, humein chaiye agar humein nazar aata hai k koi ghalati par hai to us ki madat karen take woh apni ghalati ko sudhaar le, nah k us ki tazleel karen yah use bura bhala kahen! Aap ne bohat acha jawaab diya saath hi saath zara si baatein hain jin par mujhe afsos bhi howa bhehrhaal koi baat nahi! main ne aap ki har baat ka jawaab dene ki koshish ki hai umeed hai aap mutmain ho jayenge Aindah bhi likhte rahiye ga Dua go Purnam! Sab Se Pehlay To Aap Sab Ki khidmat Me Salaam Arz Karta Hoon.... Wa’Alaikum Assalam Salaam. Wasalam Aap ko koi or topic nahi mila tha baat karnay ke lie... kahir koi baat nahi... Jee topic to bohat sare hain. Magar yeh bhi unhi mein se eik hai Aap ne haqeeqt bhi poochi to uss cheez ki jo lafzon me bayan nahi ki ja sakti... aisa lagta hai ke aap mere saath mazaq kar rahay hein... Bey-shaq muhabbat aysi haqeeqat hai jis k liye alfaaz kam par sakte hain..magar mera sawaal muhabbat k hawale se zaroor tha, muhabbat ki tareef par nahi J Jee main hargiz bhi kisi se mazaaq nahi kar rahi… mohabbat ki apni koi haqeeqat nahi hai, yeh roop badal badal kar zinda rehti hai. Muhabbat ki haqeeqat par to aap k paas alfaaz kam the, abhi aap kehte hain is ki apni koi haqeeqat nahi`? Mujhe ikhtilaaf hai…muhabbat eik zindah haqeeqat hai, hum aur aap aur yeh sari duniya isi k balboote par khari hai J Jee haan yeh kayi rishto, ta’aluqaat mein bati hai… asal me sirf wohi mohabbat hai jo aik insaan apnay Rab ka shukar baja lanay ke liye uss ke hazoor ibaadat ki soorat me karta hai.... Jee haan yeh bhi muhabbat ki eik qism hai J Lekin bas yehi muhabbat hai, is par main ikhtilaaf karoongi J Khuda nah insaan ko paidah kiya, is k dil ko gudaaz banaya us mein sheerni daali aur muhabbat dene aur lene k jazbaat sajaye..Muhabbat har roop mein har rishte mein ho jaati hai J Aap ne bilkul sahi kaha hai ke mohabbat or jung me sab "jaiz" hota hai, aap ke sawaal ka jawab to khud aap ke apnay sawal me hi maujood hai, phir bhi aap mujh se pooch rahay hein.... Main ne sahi kaha? Jee aap ne ghalat samjha J main ne mehez pucha hai :J Aur sab se isi liye pucha hai k main jawab chahati hon… Pooch kar karnay walay kabhi Mohabbat nahi kiya kartay..anyway...Mer nazdeeq puch lena itna bhi bura nahi J me yeh keh raha tha ke hum mohabbat or jung me har wo kaam kar saktay hein jo jaiz hai... Aap ne yeh nahi bataya k ”jaiz” kya hai ? aur yeh kaun taih kare ga k ”jaiz” kya hai`? aap se yeh kis ne keh diya hai ke jung na jaiz hoti hai.... Jee kisi ne nahi .. aghar aap mera sawaal theek se parhenge to aap ko patah lag jaye ga k main ne to aysi koi baat nahi ki J jang bhi jaiz hi hoti hai, har fareeq apnay apnay mauqaf or nazariye ke mutabiq apnay apnay faislay par sahi hota hai or apni yehi jaiz baat munawanay ke liye wo doosray fareeq se jung karta hai... Bilkul sahi… kisi ki haar hi to kisi ki jeet ka sabab banay gi naa... Sahi mujhay lagta hai ke aap ne kabhi kisi se mohabbat nahi ki, bus yunhi lafzon se khailnay ka shoq rakhtay hein, zaroor khaliye, lekin mohababt khail nahi hai, jis din karogay tab poochon ga ? Mere sawaal se aap ne yeh andaza laga liya k main ne kabhi muhabbat nahi ki J Wayse to aap ko chaiye k aap zatiyaat se parhez kijiye..yeh mehez sawaal tha,,,aap se kisi ne nahi kaha k apne tajurbaat baiayaan karen..aghar jo aap ki marzi nahi hai to J agar aap ne kisi se mohabbat ki hoti to uss ke liye kabhi "saffaki" ka lafz istemaal (use) nahi kartay, wo mohabbat hi kiya? jo saffak ho. Mer sawaaal ko phir eik dafa ghor se parhiye J mohabbat bhi jaiz hoti hai, yeh duniya banai hi mohabbat ke liye gai hai, phir bhala mohabbat na-jaiz kis tarah ho gai... Abhi thori der pehle aap hi ne kaha hum muhabbat mein har woh kaam kar sakte hain jo ”jaaiz” ho J wahan main ne aap se kuch sawaal kiye hain aap un ko phir se parhiye har insaan ko kisi na kisi insaan se mohabbat karnay karnay ke liye hi bhaija gaya hai, or agar yeh phir bhi aapas me lartay hein to yeh inn ki apni aqal ka qasoor hai, iss me bhala mohabbat ka kiya Dosh ! Aap hi ne to kaha muhabbat bas woh hai jo Khuda ka shukara baja laane par hoti hai J phir log bhi kya karen Khuda ka shukar ada kar k muhabbat khatam ho jaati hogi nah..J agar duniya me mohabaat na hoti to shayad yeh kab ki khatam ho chuki hoti... Jee main ne bhi yeh aksar parha hai aur kaafi had tak I agree J har insaan ko kisi na kisi se, kisi na kisi shakal me mohabbat zaroor hoti hai, mohabbat ke kai roop hein or wo apnay har roop me amar hai. Jee haan mujhe itefaaq hai chahay wo maa ke roop me ho, chahay baap ke, chahay behan ke, chahay bhai ke, chahay kisi dost ke, ya phir apnay mehboob ke roop me... Jee haan yeh aakhiri wala rishta hi sirf aisa rishta hai jiss me insaan mohabbat ki sab hadon ko choo lena chahata hai, or apnay issi rishtay ko panay ke liye wo kuch bhi kar guzarta hai... Kuch bhi kar sakta hai aap k alfaaz hain..zaroori nahi woh kuch bhi ”jaaiz” k zumre mein ata ho..mumkin hai wahan ”safaqi” ki had paar ho jaati ho ? issi liye to mohababt ko un`dha (Blind) bhi kaha gaya hai... Kehne walon ne kuch soch kar hi kaha ho ga..tajurba aur mushaidah bhi koi cheez howa karti hai J baaz auqaat jab mohabbat un`dhi ho jati hai, to wo aisi be-shumaar galtiyaan kar beth`ti hai jo jaiz nahi hoti lekin phir bhi hum ussay mohabbat ka naam de kar jaiz qaraar de detay hein. To yahan par ”safaqi” ko ghalati se badal kar aap bhi mutmaain hain ? haqeeqat me aisay hi log mohabbat ke dushman hotay hein or mohabbat ko badnaam kar rahay hein... me aisi un`dhi (blind) mohabbat ke bilkul qaail nahi hoon, wo mohabbat hi kiya jo un`dhi (blind) ho? Ab yeh to har insaan k apne mehsoosat par hai J mere yaqeen hai ke mohabbat kabhi un`dhi nahi ho sakti, agar wo un`dhi hoti to hamaray dilon tak kabhi nahi pohanch paati... Chaliye Khuda aap k yaqeen ko qaim rakhe ameen! J aaj kal to kisi aankhon walay ko kisi ke dil ka pata maloom nahi hai, to yeh to phir bhi mohabbat hai, yeh bhala bina aankhon ke kahein kaisay pohanch sakti hai... Aap baar baar apni hi baato ki nafi kar rahe hain… or waisay bhi mohabbat agar un`dhi hoti to shayad phir koi bhi aqal mand insaan kabhi mohbbat na karta, kisi insaan ki aankhein na hon to log uss ke kareeb nahi jatay phir mohabbat ko bhala kaisay apnatay... …aur aap kehna chahte hain k muhabbat bas ”zahr” dekhti hai? J mohabbat khud un`dhi nahi hoti lekin doosron ko un`dha zaroor kar deti hai, wo bhi sirf iss liye take kahein ussay apnay hi kisi aashiq ki nazar na lag jaye... ..main samjhi nahi aap kya kehna chahte hain J mere nazdeek jaiz or na jaiz ki defination (mohabat ke hawalay se) sirf itni hai ke "har wo kaam mohabbat me jaiz hai jo aap sab ke saamnay kar saktay hein or har wo kam mohabbat me na-jaiz hai jo aap sab ke samnay nahi kar saktay" kuch log ho sakta hai ke meri iss baat ka matlab kisi or tarah se lein, lekin me ne pehlay hi ke diya hai ke meri iss baat ko sirf mohabbat ke hawalay se lijiye ga. Aap kaam ki baat karte hain ..? aji sahab yahan to muhabbat sab k samne nahi ki jaa sakti  jaan k laale par jaate hain ;) to kya muhabbat bhi ”nah—jaiz” hai? JBahir ke mulkon me aisay be shumaar kaam hotay hein jo jaiz nahi hein lekin phir bhi khulay aam ho rahay hein... lekin phir bhi hum unn ko jaiz nahi keh saktay... ”jaaiz o na-jaaiz” ka faraq isi liye to zaroori hai J zaroori nahi jise aap nah jaaiz qaraar dete hon woh darasal na-jaaiz hi ho..apni apni soch ka yeh pher hai sara J me yeh bhi nahi kehta ke bahir ke mulkon me log mohabbat nahi kartay, lekin wahan ki mohabbat me hawas ki milawat hai jo mohabbat ke asal mafhoom ko khatam kar deti hai. Yahan aap ziadati kar rahe hain mer khaiyaal se! Aap kayse keh sakte hain k mehez bahir rehne wale log hi is qisam ki muhabbat karte hain? Wahan shaiyad sab samne hota hai to aap ko ungli uthaane ka moqa mil jata hai, aap k apne mulk mein isi tarha ki muhabbat chup kar ho to woh jaaiz k zumre mein aa jaati hai J haqeeqat se nazar chura kar hum mehez apna hi nuksaan karte hain…yeh kehna sarasar ghalat hai k bahir k log muhabbat mein hawas ki milwaat ko uncha rakhte hain! Mohabbat Bangi Hai, Iss Me Tan Ka Qurb Mat Mango... Ke Jiss Ko Choo Liya Jaye, Ussay Pooja Nahi Kartay... Acha sher hai J iss ke liye me aap ko mohabbat ki aik or khasiyat bata doon or wo yeh ke mohabbat hamesha sirf aik se hi hoti hai, har roz naya chehra talaash karnay walay log mohabbat nahi kuch or hi kiya kartay hein. Muhabbat bas eik se hi hoti hai..jee haan qisso aur kahaniyo mein J Humein c |
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