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Allah ham sab ko itna samajhnay ki taufeeq ata farmaye....ameen ....... <!--emo&(love)--><img src="http://www.halagulla.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/love.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='(love)'><!--endemo-->

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<font color='#0000FF'>Asalam-0-Alikum

kase hain aap sab dost ...

Chand din hoye ke main is section main a nahi saka... a aya tu yahaan TABAL-e-JUNG bajte sunaye diye aur kuch aisa mahool nazar aya ke jaise yahaan ISLAM par baat nahi ho rahi balke hum Apis ki Behas main Ulaj kar pher islaam say dori ka Jawaz talash karne ki koshish kar rahay hain .... Dostoo pehlay aik Sachay MUSALMAN tu ban jao pher dosroon ke bare main Fatway dena ya unke Aqeeday say Motalaq batain karna ...

SAWAN ne itna acha aur Mofasil likha hai ke kisi aur ke kuch kehnay ki zaroorat hi nahi hai ...

ALLAH jee hum sab ko aik Acha aur Sacha MUSALMAAN banay ki Tofeeq ata faramaye - AMEEN</font>

<font color='#008080'><b> ok main koi behas nahi karta , na hi kisi ko ghalat keh raha hoon, sab apni jageh pe theek hoo. no body know keh wo theek hai. kou keh Nabi-e-Pak ke mutabiq " Meri Ummat ke 73 firay hooon ge. jin mian se 1 firqa Rah-e-haq pe hoga"
Nabi-e-pak ki birth ke liye bhi mukhtalif Ulma main ikhtalaf hai kuch ke mutabiq x12 Rabi-ul-awal aur kuch ke mutabiq 9 rabi-ul-awal. lekin unki death ke baary mian ek hi hai keh 12 rabi-ul-awal hia. maan liya keh 12 Rabi-ul-awal hi hai birth date. 12 rabi-ul-awal hi hai death date. Tu kia hum ko unki wafat ka jashan karna chaye deegian paka kar taqseem karna chahyyee. Iss baat ko koi nahi ghutla sakta keh Hazoor-e-Pak bhi insaan thy. Jaisy Allah ne farmaya “hum ne tum main se hi nabiyoon ko paida kia hia” (wallaalaam) “ Tumam Insaan Adaam (as) ki aulaad ahi aur Adam Matti se paida kiye gaye thy.” “ ha zee rooh ko muat ka ziaqa xchakhna hia” ilawa Hzrat Esa ke jin ko zinda zameen se uthaya gaya.

Doosri baat yeh keh iss din ko Eid kehna .
Islam xmian sirf 2 eid hian, Eid-ul-fitar aur Eid-ul-Adha
Jo isalma mian jashan ke toor pe di gaye koukeh Chris aur yahoodi laog jashan waghera karty hoty thy. Lekin Islam ne yaha bhi pakeezagi ka damin choorynko nahi kaha balekh naha dho kar umda kapary pehan ka namaz ke liye nikalny ko kaha. Ek sahi Hadith bhi hia iss zumary main jo keh filwaqt mery zehan main nahi a rahi.( I wll try to get it as soon as possible) xKeh islam main 2 eid di gaye hian. Tu hum kis munh se yeh teeri eid nikalty hain. Kia yeh nafii nahi uss hadith ki. Kai hazoor pak ne apny birthday wali din kmo Eid ke toor pe manany ko kaha. Bilkul nahi. Kia hazoor pak ne soog manay ko kah abilkul nahi balekh islam main tu 3 din se zaid ka soog hi haram hai siwa shohar ki BV ke liye keh wo iddat ke din guzary. Hum kia kai bidaat nahi karty 12 rabi-ul-awal ke din.
Mian aap ko apana ankho dekhi haqeeqat bata raha hoon. Hamary mohally mian 2 sahiban hian. Dono jashan manatee hian. xEk 12 rabi-ul-awal ko aur doosra next wekk karwata hai meelad. Hota kai hai 20-25 degian pakti ahin, molvi hazrat ko bulaya jata hia. Wo apni apni kehty hain a kar . koi naat parhta hai tu koi kuch, naat parhny waly ko bhi paisy diye jaaty hian aur taqreer karny waley ko bhi. Yeh wp banda daita hi jo keh yeh taqreeb munaqid karta hai.. iss ke ilawa hazreen main se saheb-e-zoq harat jaisy (pnajbi word wailaaan Diana) daity hian masti main a kar. Aur naat parhny wala bhi naat bhi uss waqt tak nahi hatata jab tak keh acchi khaasi raqam ikathy na ho jaye. Baqaida movie banaye jaati hia uss taqreeb ki. Aur hamari main behanin bhi khoob saj sanwar kar aati haiin uss taqreeb mian. Gharaz mellad ke naam pe laakh 2 laakh aisy hi kharach kar diya jata hia, aur sirf tent ke nader jaany ka wohi majaaz hia jis ko invite kia gay ahai. Koi 3rd person nahi.

Ab aatay hain naat ki taraf. Kia kia nahi boola jata in naat mian. Mushkil kasha xki tu baat hi na Karin na , hum logo ne tu Hazrat Ali hajeveri rehmat ullah ko bhi mushkil kusha bana diya. Kahir aisy aisy fiqrat booly jaaty hiain keh jo shirak ke qareeb le jaaty hian.

Kia hazoor Pak ne yeh kaha tha keh meri piadish waley din yeh sarey shikia amaal karna. Jo duniya ki jahalat ahi wo karna. Jo fazool kharchi hia wo karna. Kia yeh Deen main izafaa nahi, kai yeh bidaat nahi. Kaha kis Khulfa-e-rashdeen ne yeh sab kuch kia. Kia unke kisi bhi qool se sabit hai yeh eid manani. Kia Hzrat Abu bakar se barh ke Aashiq-e-rasool paida hogaye baad main. Kai Hazrat Ali se barh ke Ashiq-e-rasool paida hogaye baad main, Kia Usman Razi allah se barh ke Ashiq rasool hia koi, Kia Hazrat Ali se bara Ashiq hai koi. Kia Imam Hussain Razi Allah se barh ke Kisi ko piayary hain Rasool-e-khuda. kia Mohamad bin Qasin se barh ke Ashiq-e-rasool hoo. Ya Tariq Bin zayad se barh kar . kia in sab ko hazoor-e-akram se mohabbat nahi thi. Kia unko nahi pata tha keh 12 rabi-ul-awal ke din Hazoor—e-pak paida howay. Tu hum ko jashn manana hai. Aaj hum loag apni naak ki khati karty hain sab molvi laog apny paait ki khatir.
Inloogo se barh kar Mohabbat rakhty ho tu batao. Arey hum tu Unki zaaat ka muaqabla kaha kar sakty hain.

Hum ne bas dhoong racha liye hain. PAK_O_HIND ke ilawa koi aisa country koi aisa mulak jaha Yeh Islam ki third eid manaye jaati hoo. Hazor pak ki jaye paidaish ARAB, hazaorr jaha dafan hain. Waha keh kerehny waloo ko bhi tu ishq ho ga ya sirf hum mian hi ishq bhar diya gaya hai. Imam kaaba ko bhi tu Ishq ho ga. Imam-e-masjid-e-Nabwi ko bhi tu Ishq ho ga. Iss baat pe aiman hi akeh nahi , jis ko Ishq nahi hoga wo Kaaba.a ka imaam Masjd-e-nabqwi ka imaam kaisy ho gaya, Kia Allah ko maloom nahi keh Yhe Ashiq-e-rasool nahi tu main iss ko kou aisy muqadas muqaamat ki immamamt de raha hoon.


Hum ne apni aqloon pe pardy daal rakhy hian. Sab kuch dekhty howy bhi ankahiin bandh rakhny ki adat ho chuk9i hai hum sab ko. Hum ne Piyare Rasool ki talimaat ko bhula diya. Bas uss cheez ko le liya jo keh faisa de saky. 12 rabi-ul-awal ko jashn manany ki bajey apny kirdar ki tamer kary keh Allah ke nabi aak ke din paida howay unho ne kia taleem di aur hum laog kai kar rahy hain. Hum bilkul unki taleemat ke ult ja rahy hain.

Khuda ra hosh main ayee.


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sab se acchi kitaab Allah ki kitab jo ke quran. aur sab se acchi rehnumayee xHAzoor-e-Pak ki hia. sabse bur cheez aur ghatia cheez deen mian koi nai eijaad hai. har nai cheez bidat hia. har Bidat burayee ki taraf le kar jaati hia. aur har buaraye jahanam ki taraf </font>



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<font color='#0000cc'>Asslam-o-Alaikum,
Thank You adeel Bhaie,ALLAH PAAK Aap Ko Jaza Dey (Aameen)
Kehney Ko To Bohat Kuch Hai,Aoor Muhtrma SAWAN Ki Post Main bohat Se Baatain Hain,AOOR THAIN JIN KO DELETE KAR KEY DOBARA Post Keya Geya Hai.Bahar-Haal ALLAH TALLAH Ham Sab Ko Maaf Karey (Aameen)
Bas Main Yahan Yeh Kehtey Howey baat Khatam Karta Hoon Key Ham sab Musalman Hain,Hamain TAFARKEY BAZI ki Taraf Nahin Jana Chahyee.
Bas ALLAH PAAK Sey Yeh DUAA Karni Chayee Keh ALLAH TALLAH hamin SHIRK sey Bachayee(Aameen)
AOOR SHIRK KI PEHLI SEERHI BIDDAT HAI.
Main Aap sab Dostoon Sey Guzarish Karoon Ga Key ab Is Behas Ko Close Kar Deya Jayee.Keyon-Key Sab Nain Apna Apna MUAKAF Beyan kar Deya Hai,Ab Hadayat Deyna ALLAH PAAK Ka Kaam Hai,ALLAH TALLAH Ham Sab Ko Hadayat Naseeb Farmayee (Aameen)</font>

<!--QuoteBegin--Adeel+May 17 2003,11:16--><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr> <td>Quote (Adeel @ May 17 2003,11:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--><font color='#000000'><b> ok main koi behas nahi karta , na hi kisi ko ghalat keh raha hoon, sab apni jageh pe theek hoo. no body know keh wo theek hai. kou keh Nabi-e-Pak ke mutabiq " Meri Ummat ke 73 firay hooon ge. jin mian se 1 firqa Rah-e-haq pe hoga"
Nabi-e-pak ki birth ke liye bhi mukhtalif Ulma main ikhtalaf hai kuch ke mutabiq x12 Rabi-ul-awal aur kuch ke mutabiq 9 rabi-ul-awal. lekin unki death ke baary mian ek hi hai keh 12 rabi-ul-awal hia. maan liya keh 12 Rabi-ul-awal hi hai birth date. 12 rabi-ul-awal hi hai death date. Tu kia hum ko unki wafat ka jashan karna chaye deegian paka kar taqseem karna chahyyee. Iss baat ko koi nahi ghutla sakta keh Hazoor-e-Pak bhi insaan thy. Jaisy Allah ne farmaya “hum ne tum main se hi nabiyoon ko paida kia hia” (wallaalaam) “ Tumam Insaan Adaam (as) ki aulaad ahi aur Adam Matti se paida kiye gaye thy.” “ ha zee rooh ko muat ka ziaqa xchakhna hia” ilawa Hzrat Esa ke jin ko zinda zameen se uthaya gaya.

Doosri baat yeh keh iss din ko Eid kehna .
Islam xmian sirf 2 eid hian, Eid-ul-fitar aur Eid-ul-Adha
Jo isalma mian jashan ke toor pe di gaye koukeh Chris aur yahoodi laog jashan waghera karty hoty thy. Lekin Islam ne yaha bhi pakeezagi ka damin choorynko nahi kaha balekh naha dho kar umda kapary pehan ka namaz ke liye nikalny ko kaha. Ek sahi Hadith bhi hia iss zumary main jo keh filwaqt mery zehan main nahi a rahi.( I wll try to get it as soon as possible) xKeh islam main 2 eid di gaye hian. Tu hum kis munh se yeh teeri eid nikalty hain. Kia yeh nafii nahi uss hadith ki. Kai hazoor pak ne apny birthday wali din kmo Eid ke toor pe manany ko kaha. Bilkul nahi. Kia hazoor pak ne soog manay ko kah abilkul nahi balekh islam main tu 3 din se zaid ka soog hi haram hai siwa shohar ki BV ke liye keh wo iddat ke din guzary. Hum kia kai bidaat nahi karty 12 rabi-ul-awal ke din.
Mian aap ko apana ankho dekhi haqeeqat bata raha hoon. Hamary mohally mian 2 sahiban hian. Dono jashan manatee hian. xEk 12 rabi-ul-awal ko aur doosra next wekk karwata hai meelad. Hota kai hai 20-25 degian pakti ahin, molvi hazrat ko bulaya jata hia. Wo apni apni kehty hain a kar . koi naat parhta hai tu koi kuch, naat parhny waly ko bhi paisy diye jaaty hian aur taqreer karny waley ko bhi. Yeh wp banda daita hi jo keh yeh taqreeb munaqid karta hai.. iss ke ilawa hazreen main se saheb-e-zoq harat jaisy (pnajbi word wailaaan Diana) daity hian masti main a kar. Aur naat parhny wala bhi naat bhi uss waqt tak nahi hatata jab tak keh acchi khaasi raqam ikathy na ho jaye. Baqaida movie banaye jaati hia uss taqreeb ki. Aur hamari main behanin bhi khoob saj sanwar kar aati haiin uss taqreeb mian. Gharaz mellad ke naam pe laakh 2 laakh aisy hi kharach kar diya jata hia, aur sirf tent ke nader jaany ka wohi majaaz hia jis ko invite kia gay ahai. Koi 3rd person nahi.

Ab aatay hain naat ki taraf. Kia kia nahi boola jata in naat mian. Mushkil kasha xki tu baat hi na Karin na , hum logo ne tu Hazrat Ali hajeveri rehmat ullah ko bhi mushkil kusha bana diya. Kahir aisy aisy fiqrat booly jaaty hiain keh jo shirak ke qareeb le jaaty hian.

Kia hazoor Pak ne yeh kaha tha keh meri piadish waley din yeh sarey shikia amaal karna. Jo duniya ki jahalat ahi wo karna. Jo fazool kharchi hia wo karna. Kia yeh Deen main izafaa nahi, kai yeh bidaat nahi. Kaha kis Khulfa-e-rashdeen ne yeh sab kuch kia. Kia unke kisi bhi qool se sabit hai yeh eid manani. Kia Hzrat Abu bakar se barh ke Aashiq-e-rasool paida hogaye baad main. Kai Hazrat Ali se barh ke Ashiq-e-rasool paida hogaye baad main, Kia Usman Razi allah se barh ke Ashiq rasool hia koi, Kia Hazrat Ali se bara Ashiq hai koi. Kia Imam Hussain Razi Allah se barh ke Kisi ko piayary hain Rasool-e-khuda. kia Mohamad bin Qasin se barh ke Ashiq-e-rasool hoo. Ya Tariq Bin zayad se barh kar . kia in sab ko hazoor-e-akram se mohabbat nahi thi. Kia unko nahi pata tha keh 12 rabi-ul-awal ke din Hazoor—e-pak paida howay. Tu hum ko jashn manana hai. Aaj hum loag apni naak ki khati karty hain sab molvi laog apny paait ki khatir.
Inloogo se barh kar Mohabbat rakhty ho tu batao. Arey hum tu Unki zaaat ka muaqabla kaha kar sakty hain.

Hum ne bas dhoong racha liye hain. PAK_O_HIND ke ilawa koi aisa country koi aisa mulak jaha Yeh Islam ki third eid manaye jaati hoo. Hazor pak ki jaye paidaish ARAB, hazaorr jaha dafan hain. Waha keh kerehny waloo ko bhi tu ishq ho ga ya sirf hum mian hi ishq bhar diya gaya hai. Imam kaaba ko bhi tu Ishq ho ga. Imam-e-masjid-e-Nabwi ko bhi tu Ishq ho ga. Iss baat pe aiman hi akeh nahi , jis ko Ishq nahi hoga wo Kaaba.a ka imaam Masjd-e-nabqwi ka imaam kaisy ho gaya, Kia Allah ko maloom nahi keh Yhe Ashiq-e-rasool nahi tu main iss ko kou aisy muqadas muqaamat ki immamamt de raha hoon.


Hum ne apni aqloon pe pardy daal rakhy hian. Sab kuch dekhty howy bhi ankahiin bandh rakhny ki adat ho chuk9i hai hum sab ko. Hum ne Piyare Rasool ki talimaat ko bhula diya. Bas uss cheez ko le liya jo keh faisa de saky. 12 rabi-ul-awal ko jashn manany ki bajey apny kirdar ki tamer kary keh Allah ke nabi aak ke din paida howay unho ne kia taleem di aur hum laog kai kar rahy hain. Hum bilkul unki taleemat ke ult ja rahy hain.

Khuda ra hosh main ayee.


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sab se acchi kitaab Allah ki kitab jo ke quran. aur sab se acchi rehnumayee xHAzoor-e-Pak ki hia. sabse bur cheez aur ghatia cheez deen mian koi nai eijaad hai. har nai cheez bidat hia. har Bidat burayee ki taraf le kar jaati hia. aur har buaraye jahanam ki taraf </font>[/b][/quote]
<font color='#000080'><b>A salam-o-Alaikom Adeel bhai.......

yeh sab kia hai...... <!--emo&???--><img src="http://www.halagulla.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/question.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'><!--endemo--> its very strange...

well hamara aqeeda to yeh hai kay Hazoor S.A.W ki muhabbat dil main basaye rakkho.....

aur jitni yeh muhabbat shadeed tar ho gi utna faiz milay ga.....

well Allah say dua hai kay woh ham sab ko hidayat day.....

aap Allah aur Us kay Rasool S.A.W kay hazoor maafi zaroor mangiye ga.... aisa na ho kay saray aemaal barbad ho jain......

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bohat acccha jawab dia hai sawan sister ...... <!--emo&/flowers--><img src="http://www.halagulla.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/liebe85.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='/flowers'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&(hug)--><img src="http://www.halagulla.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hug.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='(hug)'><!--endemo-->

main is baaaaat per apna muaqif paish kar chuki hoooon doosray topic main ......isliye bas itna hi kahooon gi ....
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<font color='#0000cc'>sawa n jee,

regarding your disscussions, i will simply advise you, please study Quran and Ahadith,</font>

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regarding your disscussions, i will simply advise you, please study Quran and Ahadith,</font>[/b][/quote]
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&nbsp; &nbsp; Arshad bhai,
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;WEll I studied...... and then Reply....

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