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Old 07-17-2007, 06:51 PM
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waisay zia ul haq kay anay say pahlay karachi/hyderabad main usually ppp kitni seats jeeta karti thi. bhutto ko ayub khan siyasat main laey thay. nawaz sharif ko zia ul haq. benazir ki opposition kay liey IJI (ML, JI, JUI, etc) ISI (hameed gul) nay banwai thi. pakistani siyasat main kaun hai jo fauj ki paidawar nahin hai ya fauj kay isharon par nahin nacha.
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Yeah indeed we repect the opinion of each other, but one must have to draw a line between political activities and terrorist activities....I too have witnessed this terrorism in 90s...
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ya tou aap boht masoom ho, ya phir aap jhoot ko gunah kabeera nahi samjhtay......
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This is a like a cookie with the tag....Digestives... ...and quite undigestible....even with the addition of warm tea which goes with it.

Your opinions are quite mixed up there....would like u to draw a clear line if there needs to be a distinction between MQM and all other political parties...keeping in mind that other political parties are somewhere have been in power and in regime...whereas MQM has a mere power struggle...

Could you?
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patta nahi sab ko MQM pay he tanqeedi programe chalanay ka shoq kiun hay .
PPP ya Muslim league kon say sharefon pay mushtamil hay .. un pay tanqeed kis liye nahi ki jati

kia is liye
k ye urdu speaking party nahi . balkeh pakistan k 4 sobon main boli janay wali zabanon say taaluq rakhnay walon ki parties hain .
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m sorry to say sir
aik akela altaf he bahir nahi betha
baynazeer or kuch sharef log bhi bahir bethay hain [ naam k shareef ]
un k liye bhi aik aisi he post zaror lagaiye ga
jis main un ki tanzeem ki kirdariyat
or un k naik maqasid pay roshni bhi daali jaaye
or siar e haasil guftgo bhi ki ja sakay
or un k kaarnaamon ko saraha bhi ja sakay .


baaqi baat rahi altaf k bahir beth k pk k mamlat main dakhal andazi karnay ki

to baqi baray baray naam bhi hain .. wo bhi yahi kar rahay hain
un pay bi behes honi chahye tanqeed honi chahye
aik urdu speaking party k pechay he haath dho k na par jaain.

wesay jo kaam wo pk say bahir beth k kar raha hay
dakahl andazi wala ..
wohi kaam andron e mulk rehnay walay siyasi hazraat b kar he rahay hain
means to say .. dakhal andazi

un k liye kia kahen gay .? un k liye dakahl andazi karna jaaiz hay ?
ya nawaz sharef or bay nazer ki dakahl andazi jaaiz hay ?


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dear sab say bari terrorist party to jamat e islami ki pali hoi isami jaamiat talba party hay
jitna aslaha un k paas hay utna kisi k pas nahi hay
or is ki witness main hoon

90s k terrorism k baray main nahi pochon gi k kis cheez ko ye naam day rahi hain aap .. mgr heyrat zaror hoi k aap ko wo sab kuch kia nazr nahi aaya jo 92 say 96 tak hota raha ..

any wayz aap say wazahat ki talabgaar nahi hon
cuz aap log her baat k jawab main apni man pasand kahaaniyan sunana shoro kar detay hain .
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Dear Friends:

Go k main HG k section Poets Corner main login hota hoon, aaj ittefaq say is taraf aanikla, mukhtalif topics daikhay, sab say pehlay is topic par apni Raay ka izhar zaroori samajhta hoon.

Log tarha tarha ki mantaqain paish kartay hain jab wo apni baat ko sahi ya kisi dosray ki baat ko ghalat sabit karna chahtay hain. Shayad wo bhool jatay hain k kabhi unki baat unhi par wapas aasakti hay.

Aik dost nay kaha k Altaf Hussain bahar baitha hay or Pakistan k mamlaat main mudakhlat kar raha hay, halan’k ab to wo Pakistani bhi nahi. Kisi nay kaha k MQM Zia nay banai or ye aik terrorist jamat hay. Koi 12 May k waqeaat ko ro raha hay to koi 90s ki dehshat gardi ki raag alap raha hay.

Meri un sab doston say aik guzarish to ye hay k agar is behas mubahasay main aap Tassub ki ya Lissaniyat ki ainak utar kar dil say nahi dimagh say ghore karain gay to kisi natijay tak pohanchay gay warna sirf behas bar-e-behas hogi.

Main un chand nukaat k jawabat tehreer karna chahta hoon jo k is behas main uthaey gaey hain.

1) ALTAF HUSSAIN BAHAR BAITHA PAKISTAN K MAMLAAT MAIN MUDAKHLAT KAR RAHA HAY, HALAN’K AB WO PAKISTANI BHI NAHI…

Bahar to Nawaz Sharif bhi baitha hay balkay bhaga hay apni jaan bacha kar General Musharraf say aik sharamnaak deal kar k, apnay lakhon voters ko dhoka day kar.

Bahar to Shahbaz Sharif bhi baitha hay, us nay to 5 saal ya shayad 10 saal tak Pakistan k mamlaat main tang na aranay ka contract kia tha Musharraf say.

Bahar to Benazeer bhi baithi hay, khulama khula Bharat k tankon par baith kar Pakistan aanay ki baat karti hay.

KIA BAHAR BAITHNAY SAY YE LOG PAKISTANI NAHI RAHAY?
KIA LAKHON LOG JO U.S., U.K., YA CANADA IMMIGRATION KAR GAEY HAIN PAKISTANI NAHI RAHAY?

TO PHIR ALTAF HUSSAIN PAR YE AITRAZ KYOON K WO PAKISTANI NAHI?
KIA NAWAZ SHAREEF YE BENAZIR PAKISTAN K MAMLAAT MAIN MUDAKHLAT NAHI KAR RAHAY HAIN? HAAN YE ALAG BAAT HAY K AAP LINGUISTIC BASIS PAR HAQOOQ TAQSEEM KARTAY HON.


2) MQM KO ZIA NAY PEOPLE’S PARTY KO KAMZOR KARNAY K LIYE BANAYA THA

Pehlay to ye daikhna paray ga k Zia-ul-Haq ko kis nay banaya tha?

6 Senior Generals kay hotay hooey kis nay usay Chief of Army Staff banaya tha?

Phir Zia sahab nay usi ka takhta bhi ulat dia. Jee Haan Bhutto sahab.

Ye Bhutto sahab hi thay jinhon nay Zia Sahab ko sar par bithaya or Zia sahab itnay baray Ahsaan-Faramoush niklay k na sirf Bhutto sahab kay aitabar ka khoon kia balkay khood Bhutto sahab ka khoon bhi kardia wo bhi bama-ahl-o-ayal. Sirf Benazir bacheen or Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto. Baad main 1996 main Zulfiqar Bhutto sahab bhi police k mamooli sipahiyon ki goliyon ka nishana ban gaey, wo bhi apni saggi behen k dour-e-hukumat main, or police ko ye ahkamat kis nay diye aaj tak raaz hay.

Haan to zikar tha, Zia ki paidawar ka, shayad Zia ki paidawar nay hi ye kaam karwaya ho, k chalo apni behen k dour-e-hukumat main mara jaey ga, ham par koi ilzam nahi aaeyga.

Jee nahi ye Zia ki paidawar MQM nahi wohi hay jisay Zia APNA BAITA kehta tha, or aham sarkari taqribat main apnay baitay say pehlay mutarrif karwata tha. Jee haan NAWAZ SHAREEF. Ye baat to records par hay k NAWAZ SHARIF KO aik mamooli aadmi say Punjab ka chief minister bananay main Zia ki marzi shamil thee. Baqi ka kaam ISI ka tha jo wo Wizarat-e-Uzma ki kursi tak ja pohncha.

YAHAN YE BAAT CLEAR HAY K ZIA NAY MQM KO NAHI NAWAZ SHARIF KO BANAYA THA, OR PEOPLES PARTY KO KHATAM KARNAY K LIYE MQM NAHI PAKISTAN ARMY OR POLICE USE HOI THEE.


3) MQM QOUMIYAT KI BUNYAD PAR BANI HAY.

1979 main jab Karachi University k students nay University ka Mahool daikha to jo tanzeemain kaam kar rahi theen wo kuch is tarha theen:

a) Punjabi Students Association
b) Sindhi Medicos
c) Islami Jamiat Tulba
d) Pakhtoon Students Federation
e) Peoples Students Federation
f) Punjabi Pakhtoon Students Federation
g) Balouch Students Organization
h) Biltistan Students Organization. Etc. etc.

Ab agar aap ye kehtay hain k nahi ye ghalat hay to pehlay tamam student tanzeemon ki tareekh-e-paidaish pata karlijiye ga koi bhi 1980 k baad ki nahi sab 1960-70 ki tanzeemain hain.

Aisay main agar Urdu bolnay walay students nay apnay haqooq k liye APMSO banai to koi gunah nahi kia, kyoon k baqi ki tamam tanzeemain sirf or sirf apni makhsoos communities k liye hi work karti theen.

Dosri taraf agar aap daikhain to shayad tareekh main pehli baar aisa hooa hay k aik jamaat MUHAJIR QUOMI MOVEMENT (MQM) nay sirf is liye apna naam badla ho k wo Pakistan k baqi awam k haqooq k liye bhi jid-o-jehad karna chahtay hain. Aaj MQM Mutahidda Quomi Movement hay jo is baat ka khulla saboot hay k MQM quomiyat par nahi PAKISTANIYAT PAR yaqeen rakhti hay.

NAWAZ SHARIF PAKISTAN MUSLIM LEAGUE KA SADAR HONAY K BAWAJOOD ELECTION MAIN NAARA LAGATA HAY “JAAG PUNJABI JAAG – TERI PUGG NOON LAGG GAI AAG”.

BENAZIR PAKISTAN PEOPLES PARTY KI CHAIR PERSON HONAY K BAWAJOOD SIRF SINDH OR SINDHIYON KI BAAT KARTI HAY, PAKISTAN ARMY KO PUNJABI ARMY KEHTI HAY.

QAZI HUSSAIN AHMED BAAT ISLAM KI KARTA HAY OR KHOOD KO PAKISTANI KEHTA HAY LAIKIN JAB AFGHANISTAN PAR AMERICA ATTACK KARTA HAY TO KEHTA HAY “HAMAIN AFGHANISTAN KO BACHANA HAY OR DIFAA-E-AFGHANISTAN COUNCIL BANATA HAY OR KEHTA HAY K PAKISTAN JAEY BHAAR MAIN, JAB IS BAAT PAR US PAR TANQEED HOTI HAY TO NAAM CHANGE KAR DETA HAY “DIFAA-E-AFGHANISTAN-O-PAKISTAN COUNCIL”.

WATAN MAIN HONAY WALAY HAR KHOOD-KUSH DHAMAKAY KI HIMAYAT KARNAY WALA QAZI KIA AAP LOGON KI NAZAR MAIN WATAN DOST HAY YA WATAN FAROSH?????????????? ?

ALTAF HUSSAIN APNI TANZEEM KA NAAM MUHAJIR SAY CHANGE KAR K MUTAHIDDA KARTA HAY TAKAY MULK K DOSRAY SOOBOON KI AWAM KO SAATH MILAYA JAEY SAB KAY HAQOOQ KI JIDO-JEHAD KI JAEY TO USAY QOUMIYAT PARAST JAMAT KAHA JATA HAY.

4) MQM aik terrorist party hay:

Watan-e-aziz k kisi bhi hissay main Sailaab aajaey, Toufaan aajaey, Zalzala aajaey, MQM sab say pehlay wahan pohanchti hay sab say pehlay or sab say ziada kaam karti hay, bila-imtiaz awam ki khidmat karti hay, Dosri tanzeemon nay aaj tak siwaey jhootay intekhabi naaron k kuch dia hay awam ko????????????

Halia Sailaab say Mutassira Balouchistan or Sindh main bhi is waqat Sirf MQM hi kaam kar rahi hay baqi jamatain Lal Masjid k dehshat gardon ki himayat main jalsay or uskay baad khud-kush damakay kar rahi hain.

Jab bhi mulk main talaba k pas aslahay ka zikar aatay hay sab say pehlay zikar hota hay ISLAMI JAMIYAT TUALABA OR JAMIYA-E-PUNJAB KA sab say pehlay kisi talimi idaray main goli chali to wo jamia-e-punjab, Lahore hay or chalanay walay or aslaha lay kar ghoomnay walay Islami Jamiyat Talaba kay ghunday. KIA YE LOG DEHSHAT GARD NAHI ???????????????????? ??????????

KEHTAY HAIN K MQM K KHILAAF KUCH NAHI KEH SAKTAY JAAN KA KHATRA HAY???????????? (LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZ)

Karachi main 1.5 CAROR ki abadi main say atleast 50 lakhs to aisay hongay jinki madri zuban urdu nahi, har election main mukhtalif parties say 100s umeedwar kharay hotay hain, voters vote bhi daitay hain unhain, log reh bhi rahay hain, MQM k haq main or MQM k khilaf boltay bhi hain phir har roz MQM mukhalif kyoon nahi qatal hotay??????????????? ?????????

Haan Internal Sindh ya Punjaab main aap Wadairay ya Jageerdaar ya Chohdari k khilaaf nahi bol saktay, din daharay qatal hojatay hain, gharon say larkiyan utha li jati hain, gharon ko aag laga di jati hay. MUKHTARAN MAAI AAJ BHI YAAD HAY LOGON KO.

5) 90s KI DEHSHAT GARDI MQM NAY KI THEE ????????????????

Jo log aaj Pakistan army ko Lal Masjid k chand ziddi mullaoon k khilaf operation karnay par jitna bura bhala bol rahay hain wo log 1992 main kahan thay jab isi army nay Karachi k nehatay shahriyon par chand jaraim paisha logon ko musallat karnay ki ghinaoni sazish ki thee?

MQM say un k jaraim ki wajah say nikalay gaey chand jaraim paisha logon ko Pakistan Army nay GHQ main 2 saal tak pala, unhain training di or aslaha dya, phir 19 June 1992 ko Army k trucks main foujion ko civil dress main un jaraim paisha logon k saath Karachi main awam ka qatal-e-aam karnay k liye chhor dia gaya.

Jee haan ye wohi Jaraim Paisha log hain jinhay aap sab AAMIR KHAN, AAFAAQ AHMED OR MANSOOR KHAN k naam say jantay hain. Army, Rengers or Police ki sarparasti main in logon nay kaisay kaisay jaraim kiye ye Karachi main rehnay walay achi tarha jantay hain. Dosray shahron main rehnay walay doston ko Media nay is had tak gumrah kia wo sahi or ghalat main farq nahi kar saktay.

Un tamam doston ki itela k liye arz hay k 90s ki dehshat gardi MQM nay nahi balkay us waqat k hukumrano nay ki (General Naseer Ullah Babar Sar-e-fehrist hay, us operation k baad say aaj tak Karachi nahi aaya) or Army, Rengers or Police k ahalkaron ko use kia. MQM k 20,000 say zayad karkun qatal hoey.

Media ka kirdar sab ko maloom hay, Pakistan main kaam karnay walay tamam Media Channels ya Ikhbarat ka talluq kisi na kisi siyasi jamat say hay, ye bhi aik haqiqat hay hay k bazahir tamam siyasi jamatain ghair lissani, ya soobaai asbiyat say pak hain laikin dar-haqiqat inka rawayya tassub par mabni hay. Lehaza us qatal-e-aam k waqt ye tamam Siyasi or Mazhabi jamatain khamosh tamashai raheen balkay khushi ka izhar kia.

MQM KO GHALAT YE DEHSHAT GARD KEHNAY WALON KI TAWAJJAH MAIN IN HAQAIQ KI TARAF MARKOOZ KARNA CHAHOON GA:

1979 – APMSO ka qayam
1979 – 1986 Karachi or Hyderabad k tamam taleemi idaron main Students Unions main APMSO ki Kaamyabi

1986 – Karachi or Hyderabad ki baldiyati idaron main Kamyabi

1988 – Karachi or Hyderabad say Quomi or Soobaai Assemblion main Kaamyabi

1990 – Karachi or Hyderabad k saath Nawabshah or Sukkur say bhi Quomi or Soobaai Assemblion main Kaamyabi

1992 – Karachi or Hyderabad main Government or Army ka sharamnak operation, MQM kay khilaf jhoota propaganda 1992 say 1996 tak MQM k 20,000 say zayad karkun qatal kardiye gaey.

1996 – MQM ki apnay sabqaa tamam halqon main dobara kaamyabi, voters ki taadaad double hogai.

2000 – Karachi, Hyderabad, Nawabshah or Sukkur k baad pehli martaba, Larkana, Jaickobabad, Faisalabad, Multan, Lahore, Balouchistan or had ye kay Azad Kashmir tak main kamyaabi.

MERE DOST ZARA AB TASSUB KI AINAK UTAR KAR DAIKHAIN KIA YE LOG PAGAL HAIN JO “DEHSHAT GARDON” KO VOTE DAY RAHAY HAIN???????????????? ???????????????????? ???????

AAP LOG HAIRAN HO RAHAY HONGAY K YE KESAY DEHSHAT GARD HAIN JIN KI MAQBOOLIYAT ROZ-BAROZ BARHTI HI JA RAHI HAY.

YA YAHI LOG HAIN JO AAP LOGON KI SAHI MANOO MAIN RIWAITI DEHSHAT GARDON SAY JAAN CHHURA SAKTAY HAIN?????????



6) 12 MAY KA WAQEA – ASAL HAQIQAT KIA HAY ???????????????????? ????

Chief Justice ka Karachi Baar say Khitaab ka Ailaan:
Sindh Government ka Chief Justice ko Airport say Khitab ki jagah tak Hilicoptor ki paishkash, Chief Justice ka inkar.
Naam-Nehad Siyasi or Mazhabi Jamaton ka Karachi ki sarkon par March ka Ailaan:
Naam-Nehad Rehnuma Awam ko Wrghalatay hain or kehtay hain aaj ham Government ko Khas tour par MQM ko dikhadain gay apni power:
Mukhalif Parties ka MQM ko challenge, MQM Karachi main apni power kho chuki hay:
MQM ka jawabi rally k zariye apni power dikhanay ka ailaan:
Rally main MQM kay Rehnumaoon ka apni families or bachon k saath shirkat:
MQM k aik Rehnuma apni Wife or 6 month ki chhoti bachi k saath hain:
Opposition ki Rally National High Way say Airport ki taraf ja rahi hay, Rally kay shurka jin main Karachi ki transport Mafia k loog bhi shamil hain jin k baray main mashoor hay k Sooba-e-Sarhad or Ilaaqa-e-Ghair main Qatal kar k ye log Karachi main Land Mafia or Transport Mafia join kar laitay hain.
Opposition ki Rally MALIR HALT tak pohanch chuki hay kuch sharpasandon nay Main Road Chhor kar side main khari garion or thailon ko aag lagani shroo kardi hay, Rally main shamil aik siyasi jamaat k ghundon nay libas man chhupaya hooa asleha nikala or 3 Shahiryon ko sare-aam goli maar di,
Malir Halt say mutassil Ilaqa RAFAH-E-AAM hay is ka peechay PUNJAB COLONY.

PUNJAB COLONY SAY KUCH DEHSHAT GARD aik Suzuki High Roof main Opposition ki Rally ko asleha supply kar rahay hain.

12 May ka Main Waqea isi jaga par paish aaya jahan par sab say Pehlay Opposition ki Rally main mojood Dehshat Gardon nay 3 Shahriyon ko qatal kia, 1 Kilometer aagay mojood FALAK NAAZ jo kay NAWAZ SHARIF KAY SATHI CAPT. HALEEM SIDDIQUI NAY RAILWAY KI ZAMEEN PAR QABZA KAR K BANAYA HAY or jis ka qabza PUNJABI PAKHTOON ITTEHAD (PPI) k pas hay, is building ki chhat say PPI k karkunon nay andha-dhund firing ki jis ki wajah say darjano amwat hooeen.

MEDIA KHAS TOUR PAR “AAJ TV” KA KIRDAR IS MOQAY PAR INTEHAII GHINAOUNA RAHA.

US NAY IS POORAY DARAMAY KO ONE-SIDED TERRIRISM QARAR DETAY HOOEY MQM KAY KHILAAF REPORTING KI, JAWAB MAIN MQM NAY MEDIA K SAMNAY WO TAMAM VIDEOS RAKH DEEN JIS MAIN PPP, JAMAT-E-ISLAM OR NAWAZ SHARIF KAY GHUNDON NAY LOGON KO QATAL KIA, JIS MAIN PPP KI SHERRY REHMAN NAMI AURAT KI VIDEO BHI SHAMIL HAY.


AB MERI UN TAMAM DOSTON SAY GUZARISH HAY K KHUDARA AB BHI UN NAAM-NEHAAD SIYASI OR MAZHABI LEARDERS SAY JAAN CHHURA LAIN JO LOGON KO LARWA RAHAY HAIN, APNI KURSI K LIYE AAJ AIK HO GAEY HAIN, LOGON KO JANNAT KI PURCHIYAN BAANT RAHAY HAIN OR KHUD-KUSH DAMAKON KI TARGHEEB DAY RAHAY HAIN.

KIA HAM AB BHI UN LEADERS KO SUPPORT KARAIN GAY JO “QARZ UTARO MULK SANWARO” K NAAM PAR AWAM SAY CARORON RUPIA LAY KAR BHAG GAEY,

YA UN LEADERS KO SUPPORT KARAIN GAY JO AAJ TAK KHOOD TO KASHMIR YA AFGHANISTAN JEHAD PAR GAEY NAHI, JIN KI BAITIYAN JEANS OR T-SHIRT MAIN CRICKET MATCH DAIKHTI HAIN OR JO MASOOM AWAM KO JEHAD K NAAM PAR JANNAT KAY VISAY ISSUE KARTAY HAIN,

YA UN LEADERS KO SUPPORT KARAIN GAY JO PEHLAY ANGRAIZ KAY GHULAM THAY OR MUSALMANON KAY GHADDAR, PHIR WATAN-E-AZIZ KO 2 HISSON MAIN TAQSEEM KIA OR PHIR BACHAY KHUCHAY PAKISTAN KO MUSALSAL LOOTNAY MAIN LAGAY RAHAY, AAJ BHI KURSI K LIYE KUCH BHI KAR SAKTI HAIN.

AB BALL AP K COURT MAIN HAY, AGAR MQM KI MUKHALFAT IS LIYE HAY K AAP KO MQM OR URDU BOLNAY WALON SAY NAFRAT HAY TO YE DAWAT AAP K LIYE NAHI, AGAR MQM SAY CHIR KI WAJAH MEDIA KA OR JHOOTAY HUKUMRANO KA PROPEGANDA HAY TO KHUDARA AB KHULI AANKH SAY OR KHULAY ZEHEN SAY TAHQEEQ KIJIYE, ALLAH HAM SAB K HAQ MAIN BEHTAR KARAY - AMEEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!
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