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Yes: MQM is a Gang Mafia / Terrorist Part 146 78.92%
Not Sure: May be not sure about it. 5 2.70%
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Reply this first. And I think you didn't read that we already identified you casted FAKE votes in last 12 hours.

This viloation of policy will for sure end in YOUR BAN, but you are given yet another chance to answer these questions with maturity and bring any logic you may have left.

Or else you can follow and use same tactics like your MQM TERRORIST organization and continue DARAMAY like your Darama Leader.


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Mr. Aik Dukh kaya hee acha hoo aap koi logical baat karain na kay zatiyaat pay baat karain.

Aap MQM ko favor kar rahay hein bari achi baat hai favor karnay wallay aur takhreeb kaar jamatoon kay bhi baray hein aur jaisay mein nay pehlay kaha

Man'nay wallay tu SHAYTAAN kay bhi bohat hein

Magar kaya hee acha hoo aap un links ka jin pay MQM ko terrorist organisation kaha gaya.. un pay kuch kahain ta kay un ko rud kiya ja sakay

Kaya hee acha hoo aap un VIDEO kay jawab mein kuch kahain jin mein MQM kay darindoon ko logoon ko qatal kartay dikhaya gaya.

Kaya he acha hoo aap tahzeed kay dairay mein reh kay saleeqay say koi [/b]mantaqi[/b] baat karain.

magar yeah mumkin kaisay hai.. jaisee jamat kay leader waisay uss jamat kay chahnay wallay. Jitna bara aap ka leader darama aur munafiq hai waisay hee jawabat ki tawaqoo rakhi jaa sakti hai.

baat seedhi hoo tu ziada acha rahay ga.

Mein aap kaya MQM kay kissi bhi daranday say simple sawaal karta hoon..

MQM ko canada ki court nay Terrorist Organisation qaraar diya, Pakistani ki aur kiss kis political jamaat ko kaha gaya ? MQM ko he kiyon kaha gaya ? Apnay GARAYBAAN mein JHANKIYEAH. Logoon kay khoon ki hooli khaylna band karain.. Agar Musalmaaniyat aur Insaaniyat ki koi bhi ramaq baaqi hai tu.

Karachi mein voting mein 100% say ziada turn out raha .. yeah kaisay mumkin howa ? Jawab zaroor dijiyeah ga.. !!!



MQM nay humesha zulam aur zalim ka saath diya? kiyon ? rukain ziada seekh paa na hoon aap ko misaalain aap kay tareeq mazi say mohaya kar deta hoon ta kay asaani rahay. Aap nay 8 saal Musharraf Da Dictator ka saath diya. Aap nay Lal masjid pay masoomoon kay khoon pay bhi qatiloon ka saath diya..

MQM nay jaan boojh kay soobaiyaat ko faroogh diya.. naray bohat maray qomiyaat kay magar tumaray so called leader Altaf ki taqreerain sunana nahi tu kahoo tumein kuch dhoond kay paish kar deta hoon jahaan woh sindh ka rona rota hai aur phir jab benazir ka qatal hoota hai tu uss ko bhi sobaiyaat ki hawa deta hai aur kehta hai punjab nay yeah kiya aur sind kay sath yeah howa.. MQM aur Altaf ki yeah tareekh hai kay uss nay humesha sympathy vote ko encash kiya

MQM nay kitnay hee aqoobat khanay khool rakhay hein aur kitnay hee 1994 mein manzar e aam pay aye.. koun sa raaj challa rakha hai Karachi mein ? koi qoomiyaat naam ki cheez baki hai ya nahi tumhari MQM mein aur tum logoon mein ?

MQM kay sarbarah nay Pakistan kay qayaam ko blunder kaha.. video issi thread mein paish ki hai.. uss kay baray mein kaya kehtay hoo tum MQM wallay ? agar blunder kehtay hoo tu why in the hell you are living in Pakistan go get out of Pakistan and live in country where your ALTAF requested to give place to people of MQM ? watch the video again and again, before answering this.

Iss poll mein kis kis nay vote kiya hai tumharay illawa ? Just for your information HG kay database mein jo record hai uss mein following loagoon nay vote kiya hai..


As there is only real person among and that is you, it's a shame someone casted so many FAKE vote. Khair tumhara qasoor nahi hai tumhari MQM jamaat ka vateera hee yeah hai.. 100% kay bajaye 120% votes laynay kay tareeqay aatay hein tumhari jamaat ko.. magar yeah HG hai Karachi nahi.. Voting ko correct kar diya hai dobara koshish karna aab new IDs bana kay.. theek hai


Filhaal in sawaloon kay jawab do agar koi jawab hai tu.. and agar hosla hoo tu mantaqi jawad dena.. apni jamaat kay daramoon ke tarhaan mazeed daramoon kay bajaye .. koi mantaqi baat karna.. insaniyaat ki, asool ki aur ikhlaqiyaat ki.. (agar kuch baqi bachi hoo tu).

mazeed sawal mein tumhari TERRORIST MQM kay baray mein in sawalaoon kay jawab kay baad karoon ga.. it will be fun.

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Will Imran Khan be Killed by MQM ?
Saturday, May 26 at 03 13 AM

Few days ago, I was talking with my friend Fraz, when out of nowhere he told me he dreaded that Imran Khan will be killed (Fraz is die hard fan of Nawaz Sharif but also a true lover of Pakistan, thus care about all our GOOD MEN ), not in near future but when the outrage for May 12 massacre cools down MQM will come after Imran Khan.

At that moment I dismissed his idea, arguing that Imran Khan is too big of a leader for MQM to even think about killing him. But in the last few days, the more i think about his fear the more I realize that it is more than possible, specially his point that they will kill him when every thing is settled down and no body will even think that they are behind his killing.

Take a look at MQM s' history, it is filled with these kinds of incidents since its inception. This will certainly not be the first time they will be doing target killing. Nobody and I mean nobody can criticize MQM and live happily after in Pakistan. Apart from killing the countless unknown public of Pakistan, they have not shy away from killing influential people.

They have killed former Sindh Governor Hakim Mohd Saeed. The party is also accused of involvement in the Nishtar Park bombing on 11 April, 2006 as well. The blast killed the entire Sunni Tehrik leadership in religious gathering marking the birth of Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallalaho-alahe-wasalam). What happened after what they did to these leaders. Inquiries with no results, while the killers roam free in the streets of Karachi.

After the May12 massacre in Karachi, Imran Khan has strongly criticized MQM leadership. One of the many leaders who with their actions and words have made it clear who they think is responsible for the killings. It can be said that Imran Khan has arguably emerged as the strongest critic of Altaf Hussain, even going as farther as dubbing Altaf Hussain as a major terrorist and also committing to file a case against the MQM Quaid for killing innocent people in London. This is a major statement against Altaf Hussain and I am certain that Imran Khan has become a Major thorn in the eyes of MQM. Apart from that Imran Khan is openly criticizing Altaf Hussain on all TV Channels.

In the last 2 or 3 days Karachi, wall chalking against Imran Khan has been done in different surroundings of Karachi. The slogans against him are awkward and shameless consisting of DISGRACEFUL and INDELICATE remarks mostly. This gives an indication of MQM resentment against Imran Khan.

But now is not an opportune time to kill him. Despite all its terrorist activities, MQM is a very smart Party. They will wait until the right moment. When the storm has died down, they will try to Kill Imran Khan. Why not? It will be a big statement from them. If you come after us, this is whats going to happen to you. There is noting better than the fear of death, the motto of MQM. They are already feeling the heat of May12. Most of Karachi resident had began to distance themselves from MQM for sometime now, but the killings has accelerated the pace. They can see themselves loosing most of Karachi . Whats the easiest way of putting fear back in the heart of Karachi. Kill Imran Khan, their most vocal critic and MQM will have shown the whole Karachi again that no body messes with us and lives to see another day. With one killing they can regain control of Karachi.

My only hope is that mine and Fraz fear does not come true. Imran Khan is a good man. He is different from other leaders of Pakistan. Whether you like him or not, you have to respect his truthfulness in political matters. He calls a spade a spade. Has clear visions about Pakistan. Has firm commitment towards establishing law and order in Pakistan ( his Party had Judiciary Independence as its agenda for as long as i remember). You don't expect this from a Pakistani Leader. We need more leaders like him specially in PPP and PML(N), his killing will put fear in all those who inspires to speak the truth. It will not only be a killing of a Man, but will result in putting the new found Political awareness among Pakistan public backward many years.

I just pray for the safety of Imran Khan and hope that MQM doesn't do what I think they will do.
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By Adam Pal
Wednesday, 16 January 2008

Eleven people were killed and 50 injured on Monday in the Karachi industrial area of Quaidabad when a bomb exploded at a roadside market near Gul Ahmed Textile mills. The area lies within the National Assembly constituency of NA-257 Karachi19. The Pakistan People's Party candidate here is Comrade Riaz Hussain Lund Baloch who is leading a revolutionary election campaign in the constituency against the fascist MQM. He stands on the ideas of revolutionary socialism.

The area where the bomb exploded historically was a stronghold of the PPP but the fascist forces of black reaction made gains in the constituency over the past few years. These reactionary forces always use tactics of fear and terror to keep the masses away from the political process. Anyone putting up resistance to their mafia business can easily be killed, since the State and its institutions protect these forces to keep the masses out of the political process so that they can easily impose their will upon the downtrodden people.
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Comrade Riaz Lund's election poster

However, the situation is radically different now. Comrade Riaz Lund was awarded the parliamentary ticket for the constituency by the late Benazir Bhutto to fight against these fascists and he is contesting this campaign along revolutionary lines. The slogan on his poster says, "We the toilers have waged a war against the wealthy". This has been very popular among the poor people in the constituency.

Major industrial units of Pakistan are situated within this constituency. Most of the biggest textile mills in the country lie in this area along with other key industries like General Tyre and Pakistan Machine Tool Factory. Bin Qasim Port, the main artery for the Pakistani economy is also within this constituency.

Pakistan Steel Mills also lie adjacent to this constituency where comrade Riaz Lund has a long history of trade unionism. He also led a decisive struggle against the privatisation of the Steel Mills, which was overturned thanks to the efforts of the comrades inside the plant. The lawyers' movement in Pakistan and the contradictions between the judiciary and the Generals were also sharpened due to the issue of the privatisation of the Steel Mills.

Now the State is once again intent on privatizing the Steel Mills along with another important industrial unit, Pakistan Machine Tool Factory, which is in the process of being privatised.

All these issue, together with the revolutionary campaign of comrade Riaz Lund from the platform of the Pakistan People's Party represent a major obstacle for the State and its reactionary stooges.

The masses are emphatically supporting comrade Riaz and he is tipped to win his seat in this constituency which will be a big blow for the fascists and the Musharraf Government. Currently the administration of Karachi and the whole of the Sindh Province are in the hands of the MQM and they are trying their best to stop the mass mobilization in this key area. They are using all means possible to harass the people and sabotage the election process. In past they have even killed the main people who put up resistance to them.

Abdullah Murad Baloch of the Pakistan People's Party was elected Member of the Sindh Assembly in PS-127 in the 2002 elections. This Provincial Assembly constituency also lies within the National Assembly constituency of 257. He was very active in raising the voice of the people who were being tyrannized by the fascists. Abdullah Murad was assassinated by these reactionary forces in 2004 to curb the voice of people.

The dramatic event of last May 12th also underlines the tendency of these forces to kill opponents. On that day these thugs in Karachi opened fire on a rally of nearly ten thousand people protesting against the dictatorial rule of Musharraf. The armed thugs of the MQM were sitting on the rooftops of the buildings along the road waiting for the rally to pass. When thousands of people passed along the road they opened fire from above on unarmed demonstrators, killing many innocent people while hundreds were injured. This incident alone sent a wave of terror and fright among the citizens of Karachi. Comrade Riaz was also hit by two bullets in this incident and narrowly escaped from the scene.

The bomb blast on January 14th is another attempt by the MQM to harass the people and disrupt the ongoing election campaign in NA-257 where they feel they are losing the seat.

The general election is due on February 18th and up to then these gangsters will use every means at their disposal to scare the people so that they don't come out to vote.

However, the masses are raging with revenge and are seeking a revolutionary alternative that can lift them out of the miserable conditions they live in. When Comrade Riaz Lund visited the people injured in the blast in Jinnah Hospital, he was warmly welcomed. The injured people there raised slogans against the MQM and against president Musharraf. They assured the comrades that now the situation has changed and the people will not allow anyone to sabotage the mass mobilisation.

Any attempt to foil the movement of the masses will only serve to give renewed strength to the people to fight against this tyranny and cruelty. Now the lines will be drawn on a class basis and the path that will be followed is none other than revolution.
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So it is a duty of government to tell the people what MQM stands for, whether it is a political group or a gang of terrorists, who are these deserting rats, what do they want, how do they treat places like Kashmir, Pakistan and Karachi, why do they kill, why do they promise to send dead bodies, who do they serve by heightening linguistic feelings, why do they hit transformers and leave people to roast in heat, why do they burn transport, why do they target personnel of law enforcing agencies why do they torture common people, why do they pump bullets into public servants, why have their bullets torn away life from SHOs Bahadur Ali and Imdad Khatian, DSP Bashir Ahmed Noorani (from Sukkur), five relatives of DSP Nisar Khwaja, DSP Tanoli, SDM Mohammad Nawaz Khushk, Journalist Mohammad Salahuddin, Azim Ahmad Tariq, Zohair Akram Nadeem Pir Pagaro’s son-in-law, Salim Malik, KESC Chairman Malik Shahid Hamid??? And how finally a renowned scholar, Chairman Hamdard Foundation and Ex-governor Sindh Hakim Mohammad Saeed?

The government of the federation is under obligation to explain also to the people who robbed their laughter, who turned the cosmopolitan of Karachi city, its citizens, its hospitals, parks, roads and avenues, its storage houses, police stations and assembly houses into exclusive property; who tempted the citizens to sell off all means of recreation and buy guards with the money; who were the people who never started a single development project in Karachi but did every thing to destroy the KM.C by controlling it during 1987-92 and the provincial government by controlling it during 1990-92?

Terrorism in Karachi on Hitler’s Footsteps

Just as the world knows all about the nuclear holocaust which destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki, so does it know about Hitler’s cruelty which left an entire nation paralyzed and divided. So when government says that the Karachi problem is the problem of the whole country, and that we are fighting the battle for Pakistan in Karachi, they seek to explain the simple logic that the wiles of Fascist Hitler brought destruction not only on the German nation, but resulted in the killing of 55 million people all over the world. Just as MQM has wrought havoc on not only the people of Karachi but the nation at large.

Now we would take the opportunity to see it is really in bad taste to compare Altaf Hussain with Hitler, as some self-preferred terrorists feel. This would depend on the extent to which Altaf Hussain has followed the fascist declarations canonized by Hitler while founding his party.

Hitler’s autobiography, "Mein Kampf" was translated in Urdu by Maulvi Ibrahim Ali Chishti and printed by Lahore’s Lion Press in two volumes (1950 and 1955). In his foreword, the Maulvi stated three distinguishing features of the system which Hitler evolved: use of terrorism to achieve ones’ aims, preference of racism over nationalism as the basic political creed, and use of people’s power to gain political ascendancy and then discard them. Hitler-power was achieved when they announced the Nazi party’s manifesto at a public meeting in 1920. The main features of this manifesto which are given in the following, reflect on his personality and bent of mind more vividly than any other historical document.

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1. Nation’s destinies are charted by the minority, not the majority,
2. Intellectuals are misguided individuals, suffering from scientific indigestion.
3. Democracy brings anarchy and chaos.
4. Our creed is true, and only this creed is true.
5. Destruction fuelled by violent demagoguery is necessary.
6. The leader requires disciples who oppress others while pretending to protect them from oppression ,
7. Illiterates and naïve youngsters are more suitable for the movement
8. The disciple should be trained to act, not ask questions
9. We are not the slaves of public opinion, but its leaders
10. Newspapers should not be allowed to ride popular will
11. Reject everything that the opponents utter
12. Minimum writing, maximum speaking
13. Street trouble is the life blood of the movement
14. Public demonstrations should not be peaceful
15. Deserters should face death
16. Kill big traitors before small ones
17. Divide and rule
18. A constitution cannot correct political weaknesses
19. Use force in preaching
20. 80 million Germans ought to grow to 250 million in 100 years
21. 12,000 traitors should be put to sword

We invite everyone here to go over these points and take out those, which haven’t used by Altaf Hussain and his party in their operations at one time or another. Go briefly over the points once again. The negatives for a terrorist include democracy knowledge and learning, newspapers, children,; public debate and peaceful activity. The positives are illiteracy, blind following, the infallible saint, lawlessness, street trouble, minority decisions, rejection of the opposition, and increase in population.

The conspiracy to spread terrorism in Karachi is a pure Hitlerian strategy which consists in occupying whatever belongs to the people, and then repeatedly dispel the impression that such an occupation has taken place; keep repeating that we are on the side of justice, and that the rest of the world consists of liars; and that so-and-so is opposed to our ideas because he is the enemy of our people. MQM ostensibly seeks to be a civil rights movement, but it conveniently ignores that a civil rights movement needs be civil first.

Review the performance of Karachi Municipal Corporation when MQM was in did in power, especially in the light of this strategy to have an inkling of what is this all about. For five years during 1987-92, MQM wielded total control over the billions of rupees of corporations’ funds. But what was the result? Nothing but more destruction. And it couldn’t be otherwise, because if people’s problems have been solved, who will come to listen to fire-spitting orator dilating on then put theme of deprivation and helplessness.

The largest agency of urban development put at their disposal for five long years, and all we got in return was the same chain of accusations, complaints of repression, of powerlessness, of being cheated; appeals to the people to use in revolt, listen to no one but the MQM as these Chaudhries, Waderas and Sardars were out to fleece every penny of what Appealing to the Army for Justice while attacking the same institution belonged to Karachi’s people.

While the civic problems went from bad to worse the "nation" was being fed on slogans like "death to Quaid’s traitors "homeland or coffin", "freedom or death". And just as the civic authority dissolved into a party fief meant for fund raising and ceremonial purposes, the specter of the leader rose as a symbol of Pirdom, sacrosanct and therefore in fallible, at the same time attacking every national institution, every sense of hope creaking at the hinges from internal tension, the party split into two in June 1992, one group identified as MQM Haqiqi and the other called MQM/Haqprast and now Muthaidda. Later a third group emerged under the leadership of the former party chairman, Azim Ahmed Tariq, and a former member of the party’s central cabinet, S.M. Tariq. Both Muthaidda activists subsequently assassinated these leaders and their murder blamed on official agencies.


The first to fall was Azim Ahmed Tariq who was eliminated by the terrorists of Altaf who were directly received order from their master through phone calls. But Muthaidda ostensibly mourned his death and held various official agencies as responsible for it. But confusion subsided when the former chief minister of Sindh, Muzaffar Hussain Shah, declared on the floor of Sindh Assembly, Azim Tariq was killed by Hashamuz Zafar and Khalid Maqbool Siddiqui both activists of Muthaidda

S.M. Tariq's murder came in the immediate aftermath of the arrest of Hashamuz Zafar by the law enforcing agencies. He was a close aide of Azim Tariq, and a potential witness in his murder case. Muthaidda again held the agencies responsible for the murder, and mourned his death amidst touching statements. During 1992-98 almost 450 central leaders and supporter of MQM (H) were killed and eliminated by the terrorists of Altaf Hussain including Mansoor Ahmed Khan (Deputy General Secretary of MQM (H), Sardar Ahmed (Finance Secretary of MQM (H) Rehan Umar Farooqi (Ex Member National Assembly) and many others.

Everyone knows that Altaf Hussain has shown himself to be an extremely impulsive man who can alter a "principled" stand sooner than one can say Jack Robinson, and often for no obvious reason, unless one takes into account his well known tendency for terrorism as a tool of political black mail. A look at the composition of his dialogue team over the last many years demonstrates this fact. Just because many of the members of this team could not contrive excuses for terrorism on the dialogue table, they were frequently discarded in favour of others. And saw the replacement of M.A. Jalil with Dr Farooq Sattar, followed by Senator Ashtiaq Azhar and more recently Ajmal Dehlavi and company. The same goes for MQM's assembly members, who are changed every time the elections are held so that they wouldn't take roots among the masses and carve out an exclusive niche for their own leadership.
ANTI-STATE ACTIVITES OF MQM

MQM killed thousands of innocent persons including government functionaries. Its first major situational action against political rivals comes in Pakistan Steel Mills in 1990 when a number of men kidnapped from there. These men were taken to torture cells in Landhi and Korangi. Since them, torture and murder of army officers, navy functionaries and a whole range of other professional and non-professional men and women has become a routine. Hundreds and thousands of innocent citizens were eliminated by the terrorists of MQM affair in Karachi. Among them are eminent citizens, politicians and law-enforcing personal, high government officials, writers like Salahuddin and finally the former Governor of Sindh, internationally renowned scholar and social worker Hakim Saeed.

The method is simple. Terrorists chose a government servant and mark his residence. They watch his movements and his routines. Then, when orders are issued to "resurrect the movement and do his case", the main is whisked away from a convenient spot. The kidnapped is invariably tortured, then killed and his body stuffed in a gunny bag to the dumped on a street in the quite of the night. The movement of Haqparasti (truth worship) is thus kept alive. In 1995 alone, 120 public functionaries were killed in this manner by MQM terrorists.

The question is, if MQM has not been engaged in killing government officials, policemen and members of other ethno-linguistic groups, what has it been doing all these years? A group which is armed to it tee hand given to a foreign induced philosophy of separatism cannot do much else. The whole country knows that it started the gory tradition of killing innocent, unarmed civilians in a bid to cause a wedge in the nation.

The people of Pakistan want MQM to renounce its anti-state operations, but it is understandably a hard thing for the group to do. Its personality and holding power depend on men like Farooq Dada, Asif Zaidi, Ali Mota and the like. Regrettably these men can in one lifetime kill 60 to 65 government officials for the sake of Muthhida glory, but they cannot turn it into a formation fit for human politics.



The whole world knows that Altaf during a telephonic address instigated his audience to chant the slogan "aadha tumhara aadha hamara" (half & Sindh for you, half for us) and this slogan obviously reminds us about another slogan which was raised some quarter century ago" Udhr Tum Ider Hum" and the horrible consequences it bought in a form of Dahka Fall. At the end of the meeting a prayer was held which said, "makes us the sons of our soil, O Lord," then there is Rana Safder Ali Khan’s threat in the Sindh Assembly, "we will demand the deployment of UN troops in Sindh", or Ajmal Dehlavi’s threat, "give us our rights otherwise India, or some other country may intervene." One also has not forgotten the "break Pakistan" slogan raised by mourners during a funeral procession in February 1994.



INDIAN CONNECTION OF MQM:

The government has repeatedly called upon Muthaidda to close its training camps in India and call back Javed Langhra and others to the country. Altaf and his party responded that leveling such an allegation against a party was not only a crime, it was violate of the security of the country.

According to Altaf and his Muthaidda there are no training camps in India but Javed Langrha lives there because it is a democratic country. It also says that thousands of other workers went abroad to escape persecution. It does not say how many, but if we take it at 20,000 who paid for their fare? They must have spent well over a billion rupees.

But here money is not the issue (Altaf's Muthaidda was a multi billion-rupee organisation, having robbed with total impunity the richest city of Pakistan for more than a decade. The issue is, did thousands really leave the country in 1992? All we have heard so far is a few names: Altaf Hussain, his 12 body guards, Salim Shahzad, Anwar Khan, Javed Langrha Khalid Maqbool Siddiqui, Ishratul Ebad and about hundred others. There may be hundred more phony asylum seekers in the west, using MQM's cover. To say that they are in thousands is to say that there are 22 million Mohajirs in Sindh. It is Master Goebbles at his dirty work again.

The government has repeatedly referred to training camps in India on the basis of two known factors. Firstly, the types of weapons - Klashnikovs, rocket launchers and hand grena