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Old 09-06-2007, 11:25 AM
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Default Re: Ilm-e-ghaib

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Aslam-e-Alikum!

Asy kai ahadees or Quran k iayaat hain jin say yeah sabit hay kay Gaib ka ilm sirf or sirf Allah ko hay.

Kai logo ka kehna hay kay PBUH ko bhi Gaib ka ilm diya gaya (kisi had tak) jab kay hum yeah baat kertay hovay bhool jatay hain kay ager PBUH ko gaib ka ilm diya bhi gaya to onho nay wo sab say phelay apni umaat ko bataya yani wo ilm-e-gaib (jis ko kuch loog kehtay hain ilm-e-gaib) ilm-e-gaib raha nahi wo ajj humaray paas hay Quran ki sorat main ya phir hadees ki surat main

ager hum Quran or hadees ka mutalah karain to PBUH nay yeahi kaha kay mughay gaib ka ilm nahi. gaib to Sirf Allah janta hay


aik baat zehan may ati hay wo yeah kay PBUH ko ager gaib ka ilm tha ya nahi tha is ko prove kernay say kia hasil hoga?

JANAB HANDSOM SAHAB

ASSALMUALAIKUM

UMMEED KERTA HOON KE AAP KHAIRIYAT SE HONGE
AWWAL TO YEH KE SAWAL TO SAWAL HOTA HAI, PHIR YEH DISCUSSION CORNER HAI JAB HUM IDHAR UDHAR KI FAZOOL BATON PER DISCUSSION KERTE HAIN TO, HUM IS WAQT NA NAFA SOCHTE HAIN OR NA HI NUQSAAN
YEH TO KNOWLEGE MEN IZAFA KERNE KE LIYE CORNER HAI IS ME TO KUCH BHI DISCUSS HO SAKTA HAI, OR SPECIALY EK MUSALMAAN HONE KE NAATAY HUM DEEN KE SAMAJH BOOJH BHI HONI CHAHIYE ..........

IS KI ZAROORAT IS LIYE PESH AAI KE KUCH NAAM NIHAD MUSALMAAN JO KHUD KO MUSALMAAN KEHTE HAIN, MAGAR MAGAR AQAAID MUNAFIQON WALE RAKHTE HAIN JESE " HUZOOR KO APNE ANJAAM KI KHABR NAHI"
OR "HUZOOR KO DEEWAR KE PEECHE KA ILM NAHIN"
"HUZOOR KA ILM PAGLON, JANWARON, JESA KAHA GAYA"
(NAAUZUBILLAH MIN ZAALIK)

JO TUMHEN JANNAT OR DOZAKH KE BAARE ME BATATA RAHA, JO TUMHEN ALLAH KE BAARE MEN BATATA RAHA US KO DEEWAR KE PEECHE KA ILM NAHIN ??????

HUZOOR KA ILM GHAIB MAANNE WAALE PER SHIRK KE FATWA LAGA LAGA KER THAKTE NAHIN ........

ILM-E-GHAIB JAB QURAN-SABIT KIYA GAYA TO PHIR SHIRK KA FATWA DENE WAALE KEHNE LAGE KE KUCH ILM DIYA !!!!!!

IN KE APNE FATWA KE MUTABIQ AGAR INHI KI IS BAAT KO MAAN LIYA JAE KE KUCH ILM DIYA, TO BHAI SHIR THORA HO YA ZIYADAH SHIRK TO SHIRK HOTA HAI
IS TARHA YEH APNE HI FATWA KI ZAM ME AAGAE......

JUB QURAAN-O-HADEES SE SABIT HAI TO BAAT KHATAM HO JAATI HAI .....

TO BHAI YEH ZAROORAT PESH AII MUJHE IS BAAT KO IS FORUM PER PESH KERNE KI

WESE TO BE SHUMAR DALAIL PESH KER SAKTA HOON MAGAR QURAAN KE HAR AYAT "NAS-E-QATAI" HAI IS KO NAA MAANTE WALA ULAMA KE MUTABIQ KAAFIR HO JATA HAI.....

MUSALMANO KA AQQEEDAH

ALLAH (SWT) KA ILM UNLIMITED "ZAATI"
HUZOOR (PBUH) LA ILM LIMITED "ATAI" (ALLAH KA ATA KIYA HUA"

AGAR PHIR BHI AAP KO KOI ULJHAN HO TO JO AAYAT MEN NE PESH KI, IS KA TARJAMAH OR TAFSEER MUJHE BATA DIJIYE GA

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